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 Anyone ever just cut their session short and go home?, Paintballgirl, 21. Jul 2003 08:38 | ||
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| I'm talking about the realization that it's just not your day to play. I think that a lot of people believe that if they spent "x" number of minutes driving to go play poker, they need to actually sit and play for a while. It's more than just getting your aces cracked once in a while. I'm talking about consistently being given KQ suited, AJ suited, JJ, QQ and having none of them pan out because someone holding 2-8 offsuit happens to make their boat on the river and will NOT be driven off by your raises. Everyone is drawing out on you and your playable hole cards. I believe it's better to attribute this to truly bad luck (the random distribution of luck over the course of time can concentrate a cluster of bad/good runs in a specific point in a cycle) and go to dinner with friends and take in a movie. Now my question. Bad luck is bad luck. Obviously if you're playing premium hands and getting beat, it's not a good thing. Because it's not like you can say "Oh, I'll play 10-4 offsuit" to try to change your luck. But do you NEED to play through the run of bad luck or will it pass if you're not actively playing it? | ||
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| Re: Anyone ever just cut their session short and go home?, 4 POKER, 21. Jul 2003 08:47 | ||
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| If you feel that the game is a good game for you and you're still playing your best, as long as you're still focused, disciplined and are not losing an amount that is over what it should be....then you should keep playing...as long as you want to keep playing. There's nothing wrong with taking a break, going to dinner or just going home and calling it a day. It doesn't matter how long it takes you to get to the cardroom, if for whatever reason you have had enough, I would just go home and come back another day. The game will be there when you get back, filled with players that can't play. But if you still want to play and nothing has psychologically affected you or your bankroll, then try to find a new game to sit in so you can feel like it's a new session for you now and nobody will know the wiser. But I would stil take that break first! 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Anyone ever just cut their session short and go home?, Roy Cooke, 21. Jul 2003 09:16 | ||
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| Wow...We have a paintball girl on here :-) WooHoo!!!!! I do think there are times to give up and go home....Those times are when losing has affected you mentally and you are no longer playing at t level that make it worth your while to be in the game....A better method is to NOT let losing affect you and you remain mentally tough and on top of your game....that statement is idealistic for some and quitting is the right choice. That said, if the game is good and I feel like I am playing well...I continue to play! Roy Cooke on 21. Jul 2003 08:38 Paintballgirl wrote: > I'm talking about the realization that it's just not your day to play. I think > that a lot of people believe that if they spent "x" number of minutes driving to > go play poker, they need to actually sit and play for a while. It's more than > just getting your aces cracked once in a while. I'm talking about consistently > being given KQ suited, AJ suited, JJ, QQ and having none of them pan out because > someone holding 2-8 offsuit happens to make their boat on the river and will NOT > be driven off by your raises. Everyone is drawing out on you and your playable > hole cards. > > I believe it's better to attribute this to truly bad luck (the random > distribution of luck over the course of time can concentrate a cluster of > bad/good runs in a specific point in a cycle) and go to dinner with friends and > take in a movie. > > Now my question. Bad luck is bad luck. Obviously if you're playing premium > hands and getting beat, it's not a good thing. Because it's not like you can > say "Oh, I'll play 10-4 offsuit" to try to change your luck. But do you NEED to > play through the run of bad luck or will it pass if you're not actively playing > it? | ||
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| Re: Anyone ever just cut their session short and go home?, stdioh, 21. Jul 2003 09:27 | ||
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| > Wow...We have a paintball girl on here :-) WooHoo!!!!! I'm just hoping that she's not a paintball girl of the "Hunting for Bambi" variety :P | ||
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| Re: Anyone ever just cut their session short and go home?, gary ford, 21. Jul 2003 10:03 | ||
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| on 21. Jul 2003 09:27 stdioh wrote: > > Wow...We have a paintball girl on here :-) WooHoo!!!!! > > I'm just hoping that she's not a paintball girl of the "Hunting for Bambi" variety :P And I'm hoping she is !!! LOL The same thing can apply to online play, even though the environment is different.. If you have an argument with your significant other, it is unwise to get in the car and go play poker. It is equally as unwise to play online. Poker is so much mental that anything that causes you to play at sub-optimal levels will affect your win rate. Tilt, drinking, depression, anger all erode judgement and mental toughness. Poker is an endless series of trials, calling for decision after decision. Every false step will be costly. As to blackjack and counting, here in Las Vegas, they are described as "advantage players " and are roughly escorted out of the casino. The matter is in the courts at this time , primarily because of injuries suffered to the "AP" but also challenging the rights of the casino vs. the rights of the customer/player. i agree with 4 POKER, stay away from blackjack, and for that matter any casino games. Thats where you are the fish and the casino is the shark, stay where you are the shark. Gary | ||
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| Re: Anyone ever just cut their session short and go home?, stdioh, 21. Jul 2003 09:29 | ||
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| I've played in games where I've sat down, been making money and beating the game and feeling good, but still left when the fish left. I don't care how well I'm running I don't want to play against a table full of grizzled professionals. Likewise, I've sat in fishy games and run poorly, but stuck there until I was way down. The important thing is that you get up when either you think you are nolonger beating the game or you have a psychological disadvantage that will cause you to play suboptimally. So yeah, if you spend 30 minutes driving to the cardroom and the game isn't any good, why play? You're just going to cost yourself more money. Cut your losses, go home, and save that extra time and money. Or learn to count and head to the blackjack pit. | ||
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| Re: Anyone ever just cut their session short and go home?, 4 POKER, 21. Jul 2003 09:36 | ||
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| on 21. Jul 2003 09:29 stdioh wrote: > I've played in games where I've sat down, been making money and beating the game and > feeling good, but still left when the fish left. I don't care how well I'm running I > don't want to play against a table full of grizzled professionals. Likewise, I've sat > in fishy games and run poorly, but stuck there until I was way down. The important > thing is that you get up when either you think you are nolonger beating the game or > you have a psychological disadvantage that will cause you to play suboptimally. > > So yeah, if you spend 30 minutes driving to the cardroom and the game isn't any > good, why play? You're just going to cost yourself more money. Cut your losses, go > home, and save that extra time and money. > > Or learn to count and head to the blackjack pit. I liked your whole post......right up to the very last sentence!..... (learn to count and head to the blackjack pit.....Ha)! I almost missed that last line there.....that's really funny....I don't why, but it is! I guess it just doesn't quite fit in with the rest of your post which IMO was a good one! | ||
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| Re: Anyone ever just cut their session short and go home?, stdioh, 21. Jul 2003 10:58 | ||
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| You can make a lot of money playing blackjack as long as you count well and don't make any mistakes. Before I took up poker I was a profitable blackjack player. I recommend the books by Frank Scoblete for beginners and Standford Wong for more advanced players. I don't play blackjack where I play poker simply because it is the best poker game in town and I want to continue to be a guest of the casino, but if I were in another casino waiting for a poker table, I would definitley sit at blackjack for a while. | ||
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| Re: Anyone ever just cut their session short and go home?, 4 POKER, 21. Jul 2003 11:03 | ||
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| on 21. Jul 2003 10:58 stdioh wrote: > You can make a lot of money playing blackjack as long as you count well and don't make any > mistakes. Before I took up poker I was a profitable blackjack player. > > I recommend the books by Frank Scoblete for beginners and Standford Wong for more advanced > players. I don't play blackjack where I play poker simply because it is the best poker game in > town and I want to continue to be a guest of the casino, but if I were in another casino > waiting for a poker table, I would definitley sit at blackjack for a while. I'm not doubting you, really. It just struck me funny to see that line at the bottom of a serious post...but I guess that's because you were serious, so fair enough. | ||
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| Re: Anyone ever just cut their session short and go home?, stdioh, 21. Jul 2003 14:24 | ||
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| Yup. Blackjack is only a house game when there is no memory from hand to hand. It is very easy to have a very small edge, however the edge held by a good player over the house is small compared to the edge held by the house over a bad player. Much like winning players vs. losing players at a poker table. I think if you want to learn blackjack and you are smart enough to become profitable, then you are better off devoting that time to learning poker, but if you've got spare time, it isn't that hard a skill to pick up and it is better than reading a paper while waiting for a table. | ||
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| Re: Anyone ever just cut their session short and go home?, Glen Lilley, 21. Jul 2003 11:18 | ||
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| yes,,,when having bad luck i usually cut session short and go home...and i have found that the BAD LUCK run usually passes after two or three days,,,regroup regroup regroup...there is always going to be another poker game | ||
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