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Seasoned Professional Advice requested, AcesUp5, 20. Jul 2003 11:26
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Any tips about starting off a career in poker. Looking back maybe there are some things you would do different. How you got started. Just lost my job and its something I've always wanted to do, but never had the balls to quit my good paying job. Now I dont have to worry about it. What was your starting bankroll, how many hours did you log per week, limits you played and where. All that good stuff.
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Re: Seasoned Professional Advice requested, stdioh, 21. Jul 2003 10:13
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I agree with Roy's general recommendation that you need 300BB and six months of living expenses to start a career. I think that in general professional poker is a bad idea. An aweful lot of people try it and fail and when you do, you've got nothing to fall back on.

If you are already very much a winning player in the casinos and you've logged over 2000 hours and know that you can beat the game for a solid income, then go for it. If you're thinking about learning poker now and then going pro, I can promise you that your chances are very poor. To be able to play in games big enough to make a living and to beat them you need a lot of experience. While it may seem glamorous to be a poker pro, the ones that I know have been playing for a lot of years and they tended to fall into professional play by first making a lot of money at poker and then leaving their day jobs behind. To leave your day job behind and then try to make money at poker is a bad idea.

Play while you look for work and play part time while you work. Make a run at being a pro when you know you can pull it off. Even there, being a pro is an employment black hole. What happens in 10 years if you get tired of poker and want to do something else with your life? Your resume will look like you just spend 10 years in San Quentin and your job skills will all have atrophied. Do you really want to be stuck in poker if you lose your love for it?
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Re: Seasoned Professional Advice requested, AcesUp5, 22. Jul 2003 03:38
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What can i say, YEP!!
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Re: Seasoned Professional Advice requested, stdioh, 22. Jul 2003 10:45
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Then go for it and I wish you only the best of luck in getting started.
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Re: Seasoned Professional Advice requested, 4 POKER, 22. Jul 2003 12:38
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Hey Aces Up5,

If you think this is something that you may be interested in, then go for it!

If you have an adequate bankroll and can afford to play in a limit that will be high enough so that all your living expenses can get paid, and you have enough experience and are truly skilled in the game, then see if you can acomplish it.

You'll never know 'til you try, but just keep in mind....it is not easy and most people do not succeed as pro player and there are many reasons for that. #1, they're not a strong enough player to compete with their opponents on a daily basis to show a real profit from the game. #2, they can book wins but their losses exceed way too many times, and that can be a part of having a lack of discipline and #3, they play in games that are not appropriate for their bankroll and/or their skill level. #4, you must always play in games where you are getting an advantage over your opponents and that referrs to your table and game selection.

But even if you are a skilled player (and I hope that you are), in order to make any kind of decent living from poker, you're going to have to play at *least *$10-20 and are beating the game on a consistent basis, because you must take into account all of your bills and just the everyday expenses, *and* you'll have to be able to withstand the losses that come as well....so all of these factors must be on your side, and that will only be determined by the level of skill you possess as a poker player while making the correct choices at all times. You also have to treat it like any other job by putting in the hours, too....and although that may appear to be a fun thing.........it is still a grueling job at times and your dedication, patience, and skills, really matter now.....more than ever.

The lifestyle of a pro player is tough because you must be able to keep everything in your life that's important to you in a complete balance with your poker playing. So if you think that you can handle that and are willing to take the right approach while still having an enjoyable life, one that is filled with *everything* positive (family, friends, etc.)......then give it a shot.


I wish you the best in whatever you decide.



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Re: Seasoned Professional Advice requested, Paintballgirl, 22. Jul 2003 13:04
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I not even close to being a pro, but I think I know a thing or two about human nature. Read Andy Bellin's book, Poker Nation. It's not only an entertaining read, it's also something that made me realize that not everyone is cut out for the kind of boredom, punctuated by the highs and lows that being a pro offers. You have to have a capacity to see beyond the here and now and not let yourself get stuck in the mire. Drug abuse is rampant. Boredom is constant. If you can get through that AND make a living playing, congratulations. Pick up a bio on Stu Unger while you're at it.
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Re: Seasoned Professional Advice requested, Paintballgirl, 22. Jul 2003 13:08
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Ungar. Sorry.
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