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The other side of fishy games, shorn, 18. Jul 2003 05:03
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A number of posts I have made here over the past week or so dealt with cheering on the good side of playing in the really fishy on-line games right now. Well, last night I experienced the other side.

I was playing 15/30 at Party and it was one of those sessions where I was getting less than my fair share of good hands, my good hands were getting beaten, I suffered a few bad beats, I missed most of my solid draws, and anytime I was in position to steal with a stealing hand, I ran into a bigger one. I don't want this to come off as whining becauase the simple fact is that I played relatively well, and yet still lost 20 BB's over 4 hours.

The point is that a player can feel very good about themselves and their game (arrogant even on my part) when the deck is hot and good hands are holding up. Where I (and I suspect others) need to work on my game is maintaining my control and discipline when inevitably I run into what I experienced last night.

On a side note, Congrats to Wren on her Tourny victory! Beigs found out that getting to the top and staying there are very different things! (don't worry beigs...World Champions find this out too...look at Robert V.)

Steve
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Re: The other side of fishy games, Wren, 18. Jul 2003 07:14
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> The point is that a player can feel very good about themselves and their game
> (arrogant even on my part) when the deck is hot and good hands are holding up.
> Where I (and I suspect others) need to work on my game is maintaining my control
> and discipline when inevitably I run into what I experienced last night.

Good point, and I think most of us suffer from the "letting short term results affect our confidence in our abilities" syndrome. I do imagine that it's something that tapers off with experience, though.

> On a side note, Congrats to Wren on her Tourny victory!

Tx!

Beigs found out that
> getting to the top and staying there are very different things! (don't worry
> beigs...World Champions find this out too...look at Robert V.)
>

But the difference here is that beigs is a good poker player :D
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Re: The other side of fishy games, beigs, 18. Jul 2003 08:11
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on 18. Jul 2003 07:14 Wren wrote:
>
> > The point is that a player can feel very good about themselves and their game
> > (arrogant even on my part) when the deck is hot and good hands are holding up.
> > Where I (and I suspect others) need to work on my game is maintaining my control
>
> > and discipline when inevitably I run into what I experienced last night.
>
> Good point, and I think most of us suffer from the "letting short term results
> affect our confidence in our abilities" syndrome. I do imagine that it's something
> that tapers off with experience, though.
>
> > On a side note, Congrats to Wren on her Tourny victory!
>
> Tx!
>
> Beigs found out that
> > getting to the top and staying there are very different things! (don't worry
> > beigs...World Champions find this out too...look at Robert V.)
> >
>
> But the difference here is that beigs is a good poker player :D

Thanks Wren. That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me! *sniff*
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Re: The other side of fishy games, beigs, 18. Jul 2003 08:10
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Grrr.... I don't know why, but I don't like Robert V. Watching the ESPN show really made me grumble every time he spoke. He and Layne Flack are on my *hit list. Too bad I can't play as well as them. Just you wait... I'll win again!


on 18. Jul 2003 05:03 shorn wrote:
> A number of posts I have made here over the past week or so dealt with cheering
> on the good side of playing in the really fishy on-line games right now. Well,
> last night I experienced the other side.
>
> I was playing 15/30 at Party and it was one of those sessions where I was
> getting less than my fair share of good hands, my good hands were getting
> beaten, I suffered a few bad beats, I missed most of my solid draws, and anytime
> I was in position to steal with a stealing hand, I ran into a bigger one. I
> don't want this to come off as whining becauase the simple fact is that I played
> relatively well, and yet still lost 20 BB's over 4 hours.
>
> The point is that a player can feel very good about themselves and their game
> (arrogant even on my part) when the deck is hot and good hands are holding up.
> Where I (and I suspect others) need to work on my game is maintaining my control
> and discipline when inevitably I run into what I experienced last night.
>
> On a side note, Congrats to Wren on her Tourny victory! Beigs found out that
> getting to the top and staying there are very different things! (don't worry
> beigs...World Champions find this out too...look at Robert V.)
>
> Steve
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Re: The other side of fishy games, Mike812, 18. Jul 2003 08:58
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I'm with your beigs 100%. I can not stand Robert V.

Mike

www.pokeranon.com
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Re: The other side of fishy games, Roy Cooke, 18. Jul 2003 14:03
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Hi Shorn

There is a good and a bad side to fishy games.....If you are a good player with good play knowledge your game can lose much of its effictiveness since many of the good plays lose much of their value in "fishy" gmaes.....ABC play becomes more correct a has more value than in games where good readers and players are making plays on you.......That fact tends to create a more parity between a good nad a great player in "fishy" gmaes. That said, "Fishy" games are easier to paly well and have good overall value.....I've lost in more than a few of them and I still look for them :-)


Roy Cooke


.and on 18. Jul 2003 05:03 shorn wrote:
> A number of posts I have made here over the past week or so dealt with cheering
> on the good side of playing in the really fishy on-line games right now. Well,
> last night I experienced the other side.
>
> I was playing 15/30 at Party and it was one of those sessions where I was
> getting less than my fair share of good hands, my good hands were getting
> beaten, I suffered a few bad beats, I missed most of my solid draws, and anytime
> I was in position to steal with a stealing hand, I ran into a bigger one. I
> don't want this to come off as whining becauase the simple fact is that I played
> relatively well, and yet still lost 20 BB's over 4 hours.
>
> The point is that a player can feel very good about themselves and their game
> (arrogant even on my part) when the deck is hot and good hands are holding up.
> Where I (and I suspect others) need to work on my game is maintaining my control
> and discipline when inevitably I run into what I experienced last night.
>
> On a side note, Congrats to Wren on her Tourny victory! Beigs found out that
> getting to the top and staying there are very different things! (don't worry
> beigs...World Champions find this out too...look at Robert V.)
>
> Steve
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