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 I think I'm going to cry, beigs, 17. Jul 2003 05:01 | ||
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| I signed on to Ultimate Bet this morning for my usual half hour of poker before I head to work. And as the immortal Corey Haim said, "I'm so dead they're going to have to bury me twice." I played with a maniac today. I stayed with it to practicing 'maniac' strategy. Unfortunately, I don't think there is one. Every hand was raised pre-flop and he called everyone down to the end. I think he folded 3 or 4 hands total in the 30 minutes I played. I only played solid cards, and lost every hand. And I mean, EVERY hand. All to the maniac who drew every single card. I pray this is a fluke and not the poker gods trying to tell me something. Anyway... had to vent. | ||
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| Re: I think I'm going to cry, shorn, 17. Jul 2003 05:16 | ||
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| beigs- Hang in there pal. If you read one of my posts yesterday, I played in a similar situation on Party on Tuesday night and cleaned house. The maniac will throw that $$ back into play, so don't worry. The only suggestion that I have is that I have found it to be destructive to my psyche to play in a loose aggressive game unless I have time to commit. If I were you and only playing 1/2 hour, I would look for a tighter game where you are less likely to have horrendous beats thrown at you in such a short time. Sure, you might win less in that 1/2 hour than if your good hands held up against the maniac, but you would feel better about your game overall, and I think that is extremely important. Steve | ||
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| Re: I think I'm going to cry, 4 POKER, 17. Jul 2003 05:24 | ||
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| There's NO crying in poker! But try not to feel bad, beigs. It's tough to play heads up with someone, especially a maniac type because you will have to enter so many more pots when playing heads up and when you play against a player like that......it becomes an even tougher game now because it's just so hard to put him on a hand. I bet he stole so many pots from you, too because of your solid play.....but you have to loosen up a bit in this situation and I would imagine that you were just not willing to compromize your own solid game to lower your standards to meet his. So what I would suggest is that you do not put yourself in that situation until you feel really comfortable with that type of play. Personally....I don't like heads up play at all because my starting hand requirements are too "by the book" and I need at least 5 others in the game with me to get the most from it. And, no beigs....the poker Gods are not after you....there are no poker Gods (LOL).......this crazy guy just got his way and would most definitely not be favored against you if you were all playing in a fuller ring game. And hey........you are favored to win the tournament anyway! (you have a "title" to live up to now)!!! Isn't it tonight? Good luck, and NO tears!!!! 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: I think I'm going to cry, TKarrde, 17. Jul 2003 06:03 | ||
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| 4P - You gonna create a UB account just so you can watch tonite??? Or do you gotta "work"?? ;-) TKarrde "The next best thing to playing and winning, is playing and losing." | ||
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| Re: I think I'm going to cry, 4 POKER, 17. Jul 2003 06:15 | ||
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| Hey TK, I actually downloaded UB last week. Didn't put any money in there yet, but if I get back in time I would love to watch. I have dinner reservations at 9 p.m. but that is 12 o'clock EST so I guess that would be too late, no? Or does the tourney start earlier? Let me know. | ||
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| Re: I think I'm going to cry, TKarrde, 17. Jul 2003 06:36 | ||
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| I'm gonna have these clowns cleaned out by 10:30 EST. You'll still have time to chit, chower, and chave after watching me work my magic! MAY THE SMACK TALK BEGIN!!! TKarrde "The next best thing to playing and winning, is playing and losing." | ||
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| Re: I think I'm going to cry, 4 POKER, 17. Jul 2003 06:54 | ||
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| Perfect timing for me. What's your user ID? | ||
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| Re: I think I'm going to cry, TKarrde, 17. Jul 2003 08:24 | ||
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| If you see a big stack with the name Aggie83 underneath it... that's not me. User id is TKarrde... I'll be the guy stealing blinds just to stay alive. TKarrde "The next best thing to playing and winning, is playing and losing." | ||
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| Re: I think I'm going to cry, beigs, 17. Jul 2003 06:59 | ||
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| Thanks 4P. And if you saw the way I played my SnG's last night you wouldn't favor me to win tonight! BTW, anyone handicapping the tournament??? on 17. Jul 2003 05:24 4 POKER wrote: > There's NO crying in poker! > > But try not to feel bad, beigs. It's tough to play heads up with someone, especially > a maniac type because you will have to enter so many more pots when playing heads up > and when you play against a player like that......it becomes an even tougher game now > because it's just so hard to put him on a hand. I bet he stole so many pots from you, > too because of your solid play.....but you have to loosen up a bit in this situation > and I would imagine that you were just not willing to compromize your own solid game > to lower your standards to meet his. > So what I would suggest is that you do not put yourself in that situation until you > feel really comfortable with that type of play. Personally....I don't like heads up > play at all because my starting hand requirements are too "by the book" and I need at > least 5 others in the game with me to get the most from it. > > And, no beigs....the poker Gods are not after you....there are no poker Gods > (LOL).......this crazy guy just got his way and would most definitely not be favored > against you if you were all playing in a fuller ring game. > > And hey........you are favored to win the tournament anyway! (you have a "title" to > live up to now)!!! Isn't it tonight? > > Good luck, and NO tears!!!! > > > 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: I think I'm going to cry, 4 POKER, 17. Jul 2003 07:13 | ||
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| I have some predictions but I can't tell you! LOL!........(but as the defending champion, I'd have to put you in the top 3)! | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, TKarrde, 17. Jul 2003 08:42 | ||
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| This just in from Vegas! UB Tourney odds: Paul Stine / Aggie 83... 3:1 chase poker / Banter... 4:1 Mozman / Mozman ... 4:1 stdioh / stdioh ... 5:1 begis / beigs ... 6:1 Risky Business / Pud102602 ... 7:1 Big_Slick / Przytula ... 7:1 JLenart / WindycityJ ... 8:1 noiseboy / noiseboy ... 8.5:1 mdf / Agsweep ... 10:1 Philly / phillyace ... 10:1 spk / Darden ... 10:1 Wren / Wren ... 12:1 TKarrde / TKarrde ... 12:1 Scrubbie / Scrubbie ... 12:1 mroban / fulltiltboogey ... 15:1 hatchthunder / hatchthunder ... 15:1 palman / flogger ... 18:1 McMonkey / McMonkey ... 18:1 Waddy / waddy ... 18:1 pt_Gatsby / ptGatsby ... 20:1 Mike812 / Mike 812 ... 20:1 Don Quiote / Diogenes ... 30:1 Indiana Kid / Indiana Kid ... 30:1 Guru / Bryan W ... 40:1 Doug Suffel / TheRock ... 40:1 I'm putting some big bets down on TKarrde and Indiana Kid! GO HOOSIERS!! TKarrde "The next best thing to playing and winning, is playing and losing." | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, mkpoker, 17. Jul 2003 08:56 | ||
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| What, I'm such a longshot, I didn't even make the list?! We'll see who's still standing at the end of the day! --matt | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, TKarrde, 17. Jul 2003 08:58 | ||
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| Damn! I knew I;d forget a couple. I'll put you in the middle of the pack at 15:1. TKarrde "The next best thing to playing and winning, is playing and losing." | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, mkpoker, 17. Jul 2003 09:09 | ||
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| At those odds, can bet AGAINST myself? | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, 4 POKER, 17. Jul 2003 09:07 | ||
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| Well being a gambler and all, I think I'm going with the longshot that you predict to be.........THE ROCK! (just bring it)! And watch out for Chasepoker......the Brits are N/L specialists. And comin' around the stretch......our reigning "Champion"........Beigs! Good luck EVERYONE! P.s. Hey TK, you are getting a cut from all this, aren't you? | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, Big_Slick, 17. Jul 2003 09:28 | ||
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| 7:1? I'll take that bet!!! Then again, with the slide I've been on lately, maybe I'd better pass. | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, beigs, 17. Jul 2003 09:38 | ||
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| Okay... I'm not very well versed in all the subtelties of handicapping so I'm going to ask this question hoping it makes sense. If I'm 6:1 to win the thing, am I expected to finished at a certain place? Like, 6th out of 36 people (my math may be wrong.) Or is it only saying that I'll win 1 out of ever 7 tournaments? I guess a simpler way to put it would be, where do I have to place to draw even odds? on 17. Jul 2003 08:42 TKarrde wrote: > This just in from Vegas! > > UB Tourney odds: > > Paul Stine / Aggie 83... 3:1 > chase poker / Banter... 4:1 > Mozman / Mozman ... 4:1 > stdioh / stdioh ... 5:1 > begis / beigs ... 6:1 > Risky Business / Pud102602 ... 7:1 > Big_Slick / Przytula ... 7:1 > JLenart / WindycityJ ... 8:1 > noiseboy / noiseboy ... 8.5:1 > mdf / Agsweep ... 10:1 > Philly / phillyace ... 10:1 > spk / Darden ... 10:1 > Wren / Wren ... 12:1 > TKarrde / TKarrde ... 12:1 > Scrubbie / Scrubbie ... 12:1 > mroban / fulltiltboogey ... 15:1 > hatchthunder / hatchthunder ... 15:1 > palman / flogger ... 18:1 > McMonkey / McMonkey ... 18:1 > Waddy / waddy ... 18:1 > pt_Gatsby / ptGatsby ... 20:1 > Mike812 / Mike 812 ... 20:1 > Don Quiote / Diogenes ... 30:1 > Indiana Kid / Indiana Kid ... 30:1 > Guru / Bryan W ... 40:1 > Doug Suffel / TheRock ... 40:1 > > I'm putting some big bets down on TKarrde and Indiana Kid! GO HOOSIERS!! > > > TKarrde > > "The next best thing to playing and winning, is playing and losing." | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, MozMan, 17. Jul 2003 09:41 | ||
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| It means you're expected to win one of every 6 tourneys you play against that field. -Moz "The reports of my assimilation are greatly exaggerated." | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, TKarrde, 17. Jul 2003 09:58 | ||
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| I don't think it means he is expected to win one out of every 6 (or is it 7) times. Then the house wouldn't make any money. TKarrde "The next best thing to playing and winning, is playing and losing." | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, Big_Slick, 17. Jul 2003 10:23 | ||
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| The house makes it's money on the vig. | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, TKarrde, 17. Jul 2003 10:28 | ||
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| Do you ever bet the ponies? There is no vig. It's not like betting basketball where you are getting/giving points and getting 10:11. TKarrde "The next best thing to playing and winning, is playing and losing." | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, Big_Slick, 17. Jul 2003 09:43 | ||
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| You need to win to collect your 6:1 bet. Vegas is saying that if you played this tournament 6 times, you would win it once. | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, MozMan, 17. Jul 2003 09:48 | ||
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| Hey TK- Does this also reflect the final list, or will you post that separately? -Moz "The reports of my assimilation are greatly exaggerated." | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, TKarrde, 17. Jul 2003 10:00 | ||
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| Nope. I wish it did. Going on my own list. Still waiting to hear from UB. Caitlyn's giving me the cold shoulder. I guess I shouldn't have hounded her for her phone number. :-( LOL TKarrde "The next best thing to playing and winning, is playing and losing." | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, chasepoker, 17. Jul 2003 10:27 | ||
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| Flattered but unlikely, i put $10 on stdioh. Chasepoker | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, TKarrde, 17. Jul 2003 10:29 | ||
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| Ok, do you want to go ahead and transfer me that $$ now or later? LOL TKarrde "The next best thing to playing and winning, is playing and losing." | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, Paul Stine, 17. Jul 2003 13:18 | ||
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| 3:1 - WTF??? Man, pass that crackpipe over here! Paul Stine College Station, TX on 17. Jul 2003 08:42 TKarrde wrote: > This just in from Vegas! > > UB Tourney odds: > > Paul Stine / Aggie 83... 3:1 > chase poker / Banter... 4:1 > Mozman / Mozman ... 4:1 > stdioh / stdioh ... 5:1 > begis / beigs ... 6:1 > Risky Business / Pud102602 ... 7:1 > Big_Slick / Przytula ... 7:1 > JLenart / WindycityJ ... 8:1 > noiseboy / noiseboy ... 8.5:1 > mdf / Agsweep ... 10:1 > Philly / phillyace ... 10:1 > spk / Darden ... 10:1 > Wren / Wren ... 12:1 > TKarrde / TKarrde ... 12:1 > Scrubbie / Scrubbie ... 12:1 > mroban / fulltiltboogey ... 15:1 > hatchthunder / hatchthunder ... 15:1 > palman / flogger ... 18:1 > McMonkey / McMonkey ... 18:1 > Waddy / waddy ... 18:1 > pt_Gatsby / ptGatsby ... 20:1 > Mike812 / Mike 812 ... 20:1 > Don Quiote / Diogenes ... 30:1 > Indiana Kid / Indiana Kid ... 30:1 > Guru / Bryan W ... 40:1 > Doug Suffel / TheRock ... 40:1 > > I'm putting some big bets down on TKarrde and Indiana Kid! GO HOOSIERS!! > > > TKarrde > > "The next best thing to playing and winning, is playing and losing." | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, Risky Business, 17. Jul 2003 13:21 | ||
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| You are the man, Mr. Stine. Apparently, you're also a target. | ||
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| Re: UB Tourney ODDS, stdioh, 17. Jul 2003 16:53 | ||
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| I think your estimations are just a little over the top. By my calculations, if I were to bet $1,000,000 equally among all competitors (weighted) and then paid you a $100,000 vig, I would still profit by approximately $1,320,000 on average. If you were to divide all of those numbers by 2.5 you might be able to book this event :) | ||
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| Re: I think I'm going to cry, MozMan, 17. Jul 2003 08:53 | ||
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| Hey beigs- Don't sweat it. It's really tough to play a maniac like that, and sometimes the situation is aggravated when he gets lucky. Another time, though, you will be taking all of his chips. I had this happen last night at a 3-6 table. I sat down and there were THREE maniacs trading chips back and forth. They were pumping the pot so much that they were giving me tremendous odds on all kinds of draws with turn and river bets, and I was catchign cards like crazy. TK showed up just as I was taking the biggest pot on a gut-shot straight that was laying me something like 18:1... it was funny because these were really pissed and throwing obsceneties at me through the chat window, when all of a sudden I see: TKarrde(obs): GO MOZ. I love ya man! or something like it; and after TK left, non of those guys even said another word to me! :) I got up and left with three times my buy-in. It doesn't always go like that tho... often I have the same experiences as you, so I play very tight, keep my losses to a minimum and look forward to the maniac who will pay for it all in the future. -Moz "The reports of my assimilation are greatly exaggerated." | ||
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| Re: I think I'm going to cry, TKarrde, 17. Jul 2003 09:01 | ||
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| That was a cool game to watch. I can't believe how many callers there were for that limit. Six and Seven callers a couple times. It was $3/$6 wasn't it? And the pots were often almost the size of the average stacks in front of people. Unbelievable. TKarrde "The next best thing to playing and winning, is playing and losing." | ||
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| Re: I think I'm going to cry, stdioh, 17. Jul 2003 08:53 | ||
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| I know how that is. There are few things more frustrating than when you sit down with 5 good players and 4 imbeciles and the dead money takes all the chips at the table. Part of playing with a maniac is big swings. When he hits a hand he will get paid off really well and make a lot of money. If the maniac is running hot, he will take a lot of money off the table. All you have to do is persevere and you'll get paid in the long run. | ||
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| Re: I think I'm going to cry, Roy Cooke, 17. Jul 2003 18:19 | ||
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| HI Beigs Hang loose...........and get used to it.......you got a lot more crying ahead you. Maniacs win for short periods of time ALL the time....When the go good then tend to dominate.....however, when they go bad.....they can go through huge sums of money real quick. You need to stay menatlly tough through the down swings and don't let it affect you. That way you still have a bankroll on the table when they go bad. Roy Cooke on 17. Jul 2003 05:01 beigs wrote: > > I signed on to Ultimate Bet this morning for my usual half hour of poker before > I head to work. And as the immortal Corey Haim said, "I'm so dead they're going > to have to bury me twice." > > I played with a maniac today. I stayed with it to practicing 'maniac' > strategy. Unfortunately, I don't think there is one. Every hand was raised > pre-flop and he called everyone down to the end. I think he folded 3 or 4 hands > total in the 30 minutes I played. I only played solid cards, and lost every > hand. And I mean, EVERY hand. All to the maniac who drew every single card. I > pray this is a fluke and not the poker gods trying to tell me something. > > Anyway... had to vent. | ||
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