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 Another poker story, DallasPokerFan, 15. Jul 2003 09:06 | ||
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| Everyone has a story, but this one's pretty cool! Last night, in $4/$8. I semi-bluffed J(board) J(hole) and some change on the turn by re-raising a guy who obviously had Q(board) Q(hole). Board showed no flush, no straight. Everyone else got out .. but Q-boy stayed. Then, he hit a second pair on the river. He said he would've folded if he hadn't, meaning he had put me on two pair. He won. Good call on his part, but the "rules" say he should've folded. So I lost a big pot. Very next hand, I play QTs, flop comes J98! Everyone thinks I'm on the tilt, so I raise very quickly, get a reraise, I cap verey quickly! Turn comes 9, I bet quickly, he calls. River, 8. Bet, call. He turns over AA. I win! Couldn't have had better timing on that! | ||
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| Re: Another poker story, sburne, 15. Jul 2003 09:45 | ||
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| What did he do preflop.....Was he raising to indicate AA? If not, how would you know he didnt have J8 or J9 or 98? | ||
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| Re: Another poker story, DallasPokerFan, 15. Jul 2003 13:26 | ||
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| Yes, he raised pre-flop, which indicated to me that he had a high pair. That was my thinking when the 8 and 9 each paired on the board. If I was wrong, oh well. It's not like I was betting out of control, although calling a pre-flop raise with only QTs is something I could only do in a low-limit game. But isn't knowing the game part of the game? | ||
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| Re: Another poker story, stdioh, 15. Jul 2003 10:43 | ||
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| When you are deciding whether or not to call a raise on the turn, there is a lot to think about other than what your opponent has. If he put you on 2 pair then indeed he should be folding his one pair unless he had odds to draw to his 5-outer. There's also the chance that you're bluffing which factors into the decision an there's also the implied odds he gets if he does hit his hand which he did. Since there isn't a straight or flush on the board he is going to be more likely to call you here because he isn't so worried about improving and then having the second best hand. Long story short, I wouldn't call his call on the turn a "bad" move - I would call it an "it depends" move. As for flopping the straight and sucking the marrow out of it, great use of your maniacal table image. | ||
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| Re: Another poker story, DallasPokerFan, 15. Jul 2003 13:29 | ||
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| You are, of course, right. And looking back, it's not a very smart move to try to get >1 player out on even a semi-bluff. His call wasn't necessarily a bad decision in-and-of itself (other than it hurt me), but it was a decision based on what I was representing. And, if he's telling the truth (which always is the case at a poker table!), he would've folded has his 5 (he played Q5o, early position) not hit at the river. I know semi-bluffing is a risk, I took it. And, at face value, it sounds like I just got out-drawn. Which happens in poker, but still, the play *almost* worked, and might have worked in a bigger game. THoughts? | ||
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