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Help an amateur tourney?, Spotticus, 11. Jul 2003 11:18 | ||
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| I've got a hold-em tourney with 25 participants tomorrow night. We're all amateur players. $40 buyin, 100% payout to top 4. We decided to try our ouw tourney and see how it went. However, I've got two questions I'd like to put to you guys (the experts!). We'll have 4 tables with 6-7 players per table and we'd like the tourney to last 4-5 hours. 1.) What is a "light to moderate" blind setup? We were thinking $2 & $1 for the first hour. After the first hour, blinds go to $4 & $2, for the second hour. After the second hour, blinds double every 30 minutes. Does this sound playable? 1.) Should we play each table down to 1 person and have the 4 finalists play at the final table, or should we consolidate tables as we go. Say, every time a table gets to 2 or 3 players, put those players at other tables until only 4 are left? All your ideas are extremely appreciated. THANKS | ||
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Re: Help an amateur tourney?, stdioh, 11. Jul 2003 11:26 | ||
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| How many chips are you starting with? 1-2 could be tiny or could be huge to start depending on stack sizes. I would recommend the following for a tourney of your size. Move the blinds up every half hour and start with T300. Blind structure: 1-2, 2-4, 3-6 colour up 5-10, 10-20, 30-60 colour up 50-100, 75-150, 100-200, 150-300, 200-400, 300-600, 400-800, 500-1000. With this structure the tournament should probably last for about 5 hours as you are unlikely to play much past blinds of 150-300. If you want to make it quicker shortening the round length is probably better than taking out levels in between. As for table management, it is important that you consilidate the tables as you go. That means that if one table has n+2 players and another table has n players you move somebody. Make sure you outline how the person gets moved ahead of time so that it is fair. I would suggest that the player to bust out and open a seat gets replaced by the player from the table giving a player with the player that is the same number of seats away from the button. Then to break a table when you have a table with X players left and there are X empty seats at all the remaining tables, you pick players off the tables and merge them onto the others. This can be done randomly or by a method, but it should be done fairly and you should know how it will be done ahead of time. As for merging the last 2 tables, you should definitely redraw all seats when the final table is created for the sake of fairness. | ||
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Re: Help an amateur tourney?, Spotticus, 11. Jul 2003 11:45 | ||
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| Looks like we have a lot more issues to resolve before we actually begin. By colour up, you mean to consolidate the chips, right? And "T300" means 300 chips? Tremendous help - thanks again. | ||
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Re: Help an amateur tourney?, stdioh, 14. Jul 2003 14:27 | ||
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| No problems. T300 means 300 tourney chips. You'll start at 1-2 with which chips on the table. When you colour up before 5-10 that means that you trade in all the white chips for reds so that there is less time wasted making change. When you have odd numbers of chips you have to decide whether you will be rouding up or "racing off" chips to get even amounts. | ||
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Re: Help an amateur tourney?, Spotticus, 11. Jul 2003 12:05 | ||
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| Is consolidating players how it is normally done? | ||
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Re: Help an amateur tourney?, DJpoker, 11. Jul 2003 20:34 | ||
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| Hey, Hope you tourney goes well. I would start with just 3 tables. You could have 9-8-8. That would make the blinds not as powerful because they wouldn't happen with quite as much frequency. Of couse as people have already stated you need to keep the tables even. Once you got to 18 people, I would make 2 tables of 9. The final table could be anywhere from 8-10 depending on what you want. Good luck, sounds like fun. DJpoker | ||
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Re: Help an amateur tourney?, stdioh, 14. Jul 2003 14:26 | ||
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| Yes. Normally you balance the tables and merge them when they empty out. | ||
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Re: Help an amateur tourney?, Guru, 11. Jul 2003 15:32 | ||
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| You know, normally you would consolidate the tables as you go, but I've always liked the idea of having each table get down to one player then have those players square off. It probably makes the tournament a little longer and it sucks to be the guy at the first table to finish having to wait for the last table, but I think it's a fun twist. | ||
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Re: Help an amateur tourney?, stdioh, 14. Jul 2003 14:29 | ||
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| There are real issues with that. It makes the tournament more crapshootey, because essentially you have two tournaments now. One where you play a single table shorthanded tourney and then another where you do the same. It means that if you start with the best 3 players at the same table, you're going to guarantee that only one of them makes the money and this makes things unfair for the best players. Where you get seated initially means everything. Imagine if the WSOP worked this way and you started at a table with 9 champions. | ||
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