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 1 Table nl Sit 'n' Go Situation, mkpoker, 9. Jul 2003 14:07 | ||
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| I'd love some criticism on this situation. About 25 minutes into a 1 table sit 'n' go; table was playing average to moderately loose but very aggressive. 4 players had already busted out (5 left). My cards were running LOUSY, and I think I had seen about 1 flop from the 1st 20 hands. I was the short stack, but was far from desperation time, holding about 1,300 (blinds were 15/30). Chip Leader was a very good, aggressive player with about 3,500. In EP, I'm finally dealt a good hand, AhQh. I make a decent raise (350 I think) to narrow the field. CL is the only caller. Flop comes 5d6d7d. I think, "too many ways to lose this" and check. CL makes a big bet and I fold. CL immediately starts sending me "trash talk" email chat like, "AK didn't hold up, huh!" and "Playing by the book, you'll lose every time." He didn't show cards, but claimed he bluffed with J2 offsuit The trash talk didn't bother me, but I was a little disturbed he (almost) put me on the right hand. So the next hand, I get another playable hand, QsTs. I raise pre-flop, and again, CL is the only caller. The flop comes KcTh2c. Trying to induce a bluff (remembering how the last hand went), I check. CL bets 500, I raise all-in and am called. Chip leader shows JcTc, but hits the flush on the river to bust me out. In retrospect, checking after the flop (on the first hand) after my pre-flop raise made it pretty easy for CL to take the pot. But with such a dangerous flop (5d6d7d), would you have bet into it without a pair, straight, or flush draw? As always, I'd appreciate your candid comments. No sugar-coating please! | ||
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| Re: 1 Table nl Sit 'n' Go Situation, TKarrde, 9. Jul 2003 14:11 | ||
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| I could get into more detail but I will say this: Sometimes in NL you have to let the player with position take the pot. Regardless of cards. TKarrde "You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never to get involved in a land war in Asia. And only slightly less well known is this: never go in against a Sicilian (Mozman) when death is on the line!" | ||
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| Re: 1 Table nl Sit 'n' Go Situation, palman, 9. Jul 2003 14:37 | ||
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| Not even so much letting players with position take the pot... but let the chipstacks take the pot. Being against the chipleader is always tough, because they can gamble and you can't. If the blinds were 15/30, I would recommend not raising to 300, especially if you suspect the chipleader can call and is loose, tough, and bluffs. a 600 chip pot requires a large bet to make an adaquate bluff, a 200 pot in this case would let you play a little. | ||
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| Re: 1 Table nl Sit 'n' Go Situation, TKarrde, 9. Jul 2003 14:44 | ||
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| Great point, that crossed my mind as soon as I saw "CL". TKarrde "You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never to get involved in a land war in Asia. And only slightly less well known is this: never go in against a Sicilian (Mozman) when death is on the line!" | ||
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| Re: 1 Table nl Sit 'n' Go Situation, Big_Slick, 9. Jul 2003 14:20 | ||
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| I think the more important lesson here is not how to play the cards but how to handle your emotions. You can't let players get into your head. Wait for your opportunity and when it comes, take no prisoners. | ||
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| Re: 1 Table nl Sit 'n' Go Situation, stdioh, 9. Jul 2003 16:03 | ||
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| I think that you either have to be the one to bet that flop or you have to be willing to release it. You don't want him betting at you there because you won't know where you stand in the hand and for cards the he is going to call your raise with that flop could have hit him very squarely. I think that the checkraise was unwarranted in this case. | ||
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| Re: 1 Table nl Sit 'n' Go Situation, Mark, 9. Jul 2003 17:38 | ||
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| A couple of points. By checking the flop, you are giving the chip leader a green light to bet. When you do check-raise the CL, he will call most of the time simply because of his stack size - calling for T500 is not going to hurt him that much when he loses. You shouldn't be getting too involved in a hand against the CL. You will need to show down a good hand most of the time against a CL because he can easily call a short stack. The CL is right to attack short stacks (though, not verbally). So his aggressive play is right for him in that situation. mark | ||
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| Re: 1 Table nl Sit 'n' Go Situation, 4 POKER, 9. Jul 2003 17:50 | ||
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| Very good point Mark. | ||
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