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 Buy Ins, caggy, 8. Jul 2003 10:07 | ||
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| What do you guys suggest is a good buy in for the following limit holdem games: 1. 2-4 2. 4-8 3 7.50-15.00 Thank You | ||
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| Re: Buy Ins, shorn, 8. Jul 2003 10:43 | ||
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| I always go with 20 big bets as a start with another 20 in my pocket. So, $80 for 2-4, $120 for 3-6 and $300 for $7.50-$15. That allows me to have aenough of a stack where it won't affect my play on any given hand, and enough to absorb a bad run of cards. If you can't decide, always buy in for more than you think appropriate. You don't want to get caught in a nut hand and not be able to bet it. | ||
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| Re: Buy Ins, stdioh, 8. Jul 2003 14:35 | ||
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| 20 big bets is plenty to buy in with, indeed and also good advice about too much being better than too little. That said, if you're asking this question it probably means that you haven't played yet and that in turn means that you should read some books and practice for free for some time before you sit down at a real table in the casino. | ||
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| Re: Buy Ins, MozMan, 8. Jul 2003 12:37 | ||
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| Personally, I like to think in terms of 300 small bets, 1/3 or 1/4 at a time. For example, I normally play 3-6, so I will show up with $300 in my pocket and buy-in for $100. I keep them in stacks of $20, and if I find myself with less than 1 stack ($20) in front of me, then I'll get another rack to avoid going all-in with a winning hand. I do 4-8 basically the same way, walk in with $400 and play a rack at a time. -Moz "The reports of my assimilation are greatly exaggerated." | ||
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| Re: Buy Ins, Risky Business, 8. Jul 2003 13:52 | ||
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| Caggy - Don't let these numbers scare you. I stick with the 20 big bets theory, and I never get close to the end. That's not meant to be bragging, it helps me play disciplined poker. Give me $500 in a 5/10 and I'll waste $300 before playing correctly. Ok, not really, but you get the idea. on 8. Jul 2003 12:37 MozMan wrote: > Personally, I like to think in terms of 300 small bets, 1/3 or 1/4 at a time. > > For example, I normally play 3-6, so I will show up with $300 in my pocket and > buy-in for $100. I keep them in stacks of $20, and if I find myself with less than 1 > stack ($20) in front of me, then I'll get another rack to avoid going all-in with a > winning hand. I do 4-8 basically the same way, walk in with $400 and play a rack at a > time. > > -Moz > > "The reports of my assimilation are greatly exaggerated." | ||
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| Re: Buy Ins, MozMan, 9. Jul 2003 08:12 | ||
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| oh, absolutely. I didn't mean to make it sound like you had to have a lot of money with you to play, that's just how I prefer to do it. I like it that way because I never have to play scared. -Moz "The reports of my assimilation are greatly exaggerated." | ||
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| Re: Buy Ins, stdioh, 8. Jul 2003 14:39 | ||
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| I don't think that $20 is enough to have in front of you in a 3-6 game if you want to avoid going all in. I like to have 10BB in front of me at all times in case that monster hits and gets action and you need to be there with more money. 10 BB allows you to go in capping preflop and capping the flop (lets say you have KK and flop kings full and get action), cap the turn, and have 2 bets for the river. I think that in the most pathalogical hands, this is enough money to throw into one hand. Yes, if you are heads up with no cap, you could put more. Yes, you could cap the river and be holding the nuts. But for all practical purposes you can be pretty sure that you won't ever put in more than 10 BB in one hand. $20 at the 3-6 however is only 3.5 big bets and if I had a nickel for every time I've pumped more than 4 BB into a hand I could probably buy some really nice jewelery for my girl :) | ||
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| Re: Buy Ins, MozMan, 9. Jul 2003 08:15 | ||
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| Good point. I can get away with it in our 3-6 games because they are so passive; sometimes I think I'm the only one creating action. Conversely, the 4-8 games there are very unpredictable, loose and aggressive, and I generally don't like to dip under three stacks because half the hands are kills and the 4-8 players love action, especially in kill pots. -Moz "The reports of my assimilation are greatly exaggerated." | ||
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| Re: Buy Ins, str82tko, 8. Jul 2003 17:25 | ||
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| You will no doubt get several versions of what people do but if you look at them all there is usually one theme. What is the individual comfortable with? My poker stash (total I have devoted to ONLY poker) I figured at 300 x large bet i.e 3-6=$1800. For each session I prefer to go in with 100 x the small bet and sit down with 1/2 of that to start. so when I play 4-8, I take $400 but sit down with $200. Now, the reason for that is it has a tendency to give a two-fold table image. Some players see this as "this guy must be a looser 'cuz he's loaded for bear" OR "this guy must be good and plans on staying awhile. Either way, makes no difference, I think you have sent mixed signals right from the get go. Of course this is assuming you don't know anyone at the table. Is this really important to do? Probably not, but I find any psychological edge I can muster, no matter how small, is for me not the other guy. Kinda like talking to yourself about what a rotten player you have been..(reference Roy Cooke's post.) The second reason I do this is because knowing I have that firepower behind me keeps me solid in play when things go bad (whether my fault or legit bad beats). It allows you to make the swings and not panic by looking at a short stack. Hope this helps you decide what's best for you. | ||
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| Re: Buy Ins, shorn, 9. Jul 2003 04:56 | ||
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| str8- I like this approach. More scientific than my 20 BB's only. I am headed to the casino on Saturday and I think I will give it a try to see if there is any psychological benefit for me. Thanks for sharing your thought process. Steve | ||
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| Re: Buy Ins, str82tko, 9. Jul 2003 05:39 | ||
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| Steve..Hope it works for you. Let me know if you see any reaction. | ||
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