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 Omaha hi lo prob ?, mandeep, 8. Jul 2003 06:13 | ||
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| Please see the following case. I got it from a site. I was not able to understand the case for player #3 (marked between *'s). As Player3 has a possibility to make [3c 3h 5c 4h 2h - low hand of one pair] or [4s 4c 4h 5c 3h - low hand of 3 of a kind] this page says that Player 3 cannot make his low hand... Is it like that low hand is applicable in straight hands only as it seems from rest of three cases? Where am I making a mistake? Please help me out.. Kindly do send me example hands to make me understand easily.. Thanks in anticipation.. ;)) <=====================> Sample Hands A sample deal shows how players form their hands. For example, four players start with these hands: Player 1: As 2s Ks Kd Player 2: Ah 2c 3s 3d Player 3: 2h 3c 4s 4c Player 4: 6h 7h 6c 7d The board ends up this way: 3h 4h 5c Kh Kc. These are the final hands: Player 1 uses the As 2s to form his best low hand, As 2s 3h 4h 5c (a wheel). Player 1 uses the Ks Kd to form his best high hand, Ks Kd Kh Kc 5c (four kings). Player 2 uses the Ah 2c to form his best low hand, Ah 2c 3h 4h 5c (a wheel). Player 2 uses the 3s 3d to form his best high hand, 3s 3d 3h Kh Kc (a full house, threes full of kings). ***Player 3 cannot make a low hand. ***** Player 3 uses the 4s 4c to form his best high hand, 4s 4c 4h Kh Kc (a full house, fours full of kings). Player 4 uses any of his 6-7 combinations to form his best low hand, 3-4-5-6-7. Player 4 uses the 6h 7h to form his best high hand, Kh 7h 6h 4h 3h (a king-high flush). <===================> | ||
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| Re: Omaha hi lo prob ?, Paul Stine, 8. Jul 2003 06:24 | ||
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| on 8. Jul 2003 06:13 mandeep wrote: > Please see the following case. I got it from a site. I was not able to > understand the case for player #3 (marked between *'s). > As Player3 has a possibility to make [3c 3h 5c 4h 2h - low hand of one pair] > or [4s 4c 4h 5c 3h - low hand of 3 of a kind] this page says that Player 3 > cannot make his low hand... > > Is it like that low hand is applicable in straight hands only as it seems from > rest of three cases? > Where am I making a mistake? Please help me out.. > Kindly do send me example hands to make me understand easily.. > Thanks in anticipation.. ;)) > <=====================> > Sample Hands > A sample deal shows how players form their hands. For example, four players > start with these hands: > Player 1: As 2s Ks Kd > Player 2: Ah 2c 3s 3d > Player 3: 2h 3c 4s 4c > Player 4: 6h 7h 6c 7d > > The board ends up this way: 3h 4h 5c Kh Kc. These are the final hands: > Player 1 uses the As 2s to form his best low hand, As 2s 3h 4h 5c (a wheel). > Player 1 uses the Ks Kd to form his best high hand, Ks Kd Kh Kc 5c (four > kings). > Player 2 uses the Ah 2c to form his best low hand, Ah 2c 3h 4h 5c (a wheel). > Player 2 uses the 3s 3d to form his best high hand, 3s 3d 3h Kh Kc (a full > house, threes full of kings). > ***Player 3 cannot make a low hand. ***** > Player 3 uses the 4s 4c to form his best high hand, 4s 4c 4h Kh Kc (a full > house, fours full of kings). > Player 4 uses any of his 6-7 combinations to form his best low hand, 3-4-5-6-7. > > Player 4 uses the 6h 7h to form his best high hand, Kh 7h 6h 4h 3h (a king-high > flush). > <===================> > Player 3 doesn't have five, distinct (i.e. unpaired ranks) cards less than or equal to 8 in rank (8 or better.) Players 1 and 2 hand the same low hand, a wheel or 5-high straight. Player 4 has a low hand that qualifies under the 8 or better rule but is beaten by the lows shown by players 1 and 2. Paul Stine College Station, TX | ||
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| Re: Omaha hi lo prob ?, stdioh, 8. Jul 2003 14:54 | ||
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| Paul is correct here. Let me clarify a little. In Omaha, the top hand gets half the pot if there is a VALID low and all of the pot if there is NO VALID LOW. To make a valid low hand you must satisfy all of the following conditions: 1) You must use 2 cards from your hand and 3 cards from the board. 2) All five cards must be distinct (no pairs). 3) All five cards must have a rank of lower than or equal to 8. Now, all the players who have a qualifying low hand contend for the low half of the pot. The best low is A2345 and the worst low is 45678. Straights do not affect whether a hand is low or not in Omaha, so A2345 is valid. The easiest way to tell what the best low hand is, is to arrange the cards from highest to lowest left to right and look at them as a number. The lowest number wins. For instance, A2345 would become the number 12345. 27658 would become the number 87652. A3874 would become the number 87431, etc. Valid hands start with a number less than or equal to 8 and have no double-digit in them. So you know right away that 94321 is invalid and that 65332 is invalid. Now you can look at making a low hand as making the lowest possible ordered 5 digit number from 2 of your hole cards and 3 of the board cards. So in your example, Players 1 and 2 have 54321. Player 3 has 54332 -> invalid or 54432 -> invalid, but has no valid low. Player 4 has 76543. It is easy to see that the winners for low are players 1 and 2. | ||
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