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 Draw Quickies, PokerDude, 6. Jul 2003 19:20 | ||
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| When is it correct to draw to a... 4 flush A or K high? 4 flush Q or x high? open ended straight draw? thank you all in advance good luck in all your endeavors | ||
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| Re: Draw Quickies, 4 POKER, 6. Jul 2003 19:49 | ||
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| on 6. Jul 2003 19:20 PokerDude wrote: > When is it correct to draw to a... > 4 flush A or K high? > 4 flush Q or x high? > open ended straight draw? > > thank you all in advance > > good luck in all your endeavors PokerDude, So much of that is going to depend on the situation at hand. If you're drawing to the NUT flush on the flop, you can continue with your calls, however.....if there was alot of heavy betting pre-flop and on the flop, if the board now pairs on the turn, you might be drawing dead even if you do hit your flush card on the river. Now, if you are drawing to the nut flush and have overcard/s to hit ,that might give you more outs to your holding as well. But alot is going to depend on the entire situation and if you feel that if you do hit an overpair on the turn, than that would be good too. Alot has to depend on the odds that you will getting if you do hit your flush when you obviously are already up against a made hand (straight) thus realizing that even if you did happen to hit one of your overcards (on the turn), that that hand would not be good enough to win. I would continue with that nut draw, but I would be leary if the board paired on the turn if there was a signifigant amount of betting/raising on the flop and what card/s actually were out there. (were there high cards on the flop or smaller cards)? Was the hand raised and re-raised pre-flop? Do you think that someone may now have flopped a set with a big pair and now the turn card pairs the board? That's why I'm saying that so much depends on how the hand was played out pre-flop and on the flop. Now drawing to second nut flushes will also depend on whether A) you feel that if you DO hit it, would it be the nuts (basing that on the action that you were dealing with at that time), and/or B) do you have any other redraw that may be needed if you don't hit the flush on the turn, like an overcard to give you the highest pair at that time. If you can put your opponent/s on a certain holding, you may even be able to raise with some of these drawing hands, which may allow you to either, get a free card if needed, OR, you may be able to just take down the pot right there or on the turn. Sometimes when you "set up" a certain play (like raising a bettor or check-raising), when you do miss....if they were on a draw also, a bet from you may win you the pot now without ever having improved. Open end straights. If you're drawing to the nut straight, and the board is coordinated with suits, than you're going to need to take extreme caution with that draw. If the flop and/or turn does not bring a made flush card, then you can continue. The same may apply if the board pairs and whether (by based on the action), if you felt your straight would be the nuts if you did happen to hit it on the river card. But with a rainbow flop (all different suits), then yes, I would continue with draw, but know that if you're not drawing to any overcards with your holding, then you'll want enough players in the hand with you to give you the correct implied odds when you do hit it. Hope this helps. 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Draw Quickies, PokerDude, 6. Jul 2003 19:52 | ||
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| Thank you 4. Thank you very much for the advice. some things to think about in there. But I am speaking of Draw Poker. =) Thanks again. Officially Licensed Dude | ||
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| Re: Draw Quickies, 4 POKER, 6. Jul 2003 19:56 | ||
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| on 6. Jul 2003 19:52 PokerDude wrote: > Thank you 4. Thank you very much for the advice. some things to think about in there. > But I am speaking of Draw Poker. =) > > > Thanks again. DRAW POKER??? ( every other post is about hold-em...what the hecks with that)? LOL...........draw poker....UGH! You didn't say DRRRRAW POKER, you said ,"when you're drawing"!!!!! Ok then......nevermind!! LOL. > > > Officially Licensed Dude | ||
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| Re: Draw Quickies, cold_cash, 6. Jul 2003 21:03 | ||
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| I dont think drawing in draw poker is much different than "drawing" in hold em. The same principles apply... how many outs you have, how much moulah is in the pot, how much action there was prior to your draw, how much action you think there will be after your draw, when you get to draw (first, last, middle.... if everybody takes 4 you might rethink things, for example). I'm no expert, but if you want my advice.... never draw one card to two pair (if you're playing jacks or better to open, trips or better to win), and never keep an ace 'kicker'. Don't break up a high pair to draw to an inside straight....etc. Just use your common sense... lol. | ||
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| Re: Draw Quickies, 4 POKER, 6. Jul 2003 21:18 | ||
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| on 6. Jul 2003 21:03 cold_cash wrote: > I dont think drawing in draw poker is much different than "drawing" in hold em. The > same principles apply... how many outs you have, how much moulah is in the pot, how > much action there was prior to your draw, how much action you think there will be > after your draw, when you get to draw (first, last, middle.... if everybody takes 4 > you might rethink things, for example). > > I'm no expert, but if you want my advice.... never draw one card to two pair (if > you're playing jacks or better to open, trips or better to win), and never keep an > ace 'kicker'. Don't break up a high pair to draw to an inside straight....etc. > Just use your common sense... lol. Unless you're playing in a home game, then you won't need to have jacks or better and/or trips to win. So how would you play your hands then? just curious. Would you then keep an Ace kicker when just holding one pair, or would you toss it and give yourself a little bit better chance at hitting the trip card? I don't play draw poker (except for when I used to play in home games with jacks or better and stuff like that)...........so I'm just curious. Thanks 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Draw Quickies, PokerDude, 6. Jul 2003 23:22 | ||
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| I have been folding my jacks except the blinds. Tonite is the first time I've played online. But my luck has been tremendous and I'm up $20 in 3 hours in .25 .50. =) Officially Licensed Dude | ||
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| Re: Draw Quickies, 4 POKER, 7. Jul 2003 00:27 | ||
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| Good for you, buddy, Keep up the good results! 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Draw Quickies, PokerDude, 7. Jul 2003 00:29 | ||
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| thanks =) Officially Licensed Dude | ||
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