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 (urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, mandeep, 6. Jul 2003 04:31 | ||
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| I need a very urgent help in following two scenarios... Winner Declartion Rules Game :Omaha Hi-Lo Problem 1: ======== Which of the following hands are not considered for 'Lo' hand 1. ROYAL FLUSH 2. STRAIGHT FLUSH 3. FULL HOUSE 4. FLUSH 5. STRAIGHT 6. 3 OF A KIND 7. 2 PAIRS 8. 1 PAIR 9. HIGH CARD ------------------------------- Game : Texas Holdem/ Omaha HiLo Problem 2: ======== Assuming a player is new to poker game. How can a player use 'Ace' card for making his best hand out of his pocket cards + community cards? Some times 'Ace' is evaluated as value 14 (higher than King, bearing value 13) to play high (e.g. royal flush) but sometimes it is evaluated as value 1. It is also confusing when it is being used as kicker value and player is confused whether to use his 'Ace' card as value '14'(highest) or as value '1' (lowest). I hope u could help me out in understanding the use of 'Ace' in poker games. Game : Texas Holdem/ Omaha HiLo Problem 3: ======== Can a player choose to sitout when it is his turn to pay high blind bet? I would appreciate if u could also suggest me some web source regarding in depth knowledge of poker game where i could learn to solve problems like above. Thanks a lot in anticipation. | ||
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| Re: (urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, 4 POKER, 6. Jul 2003 05:04 | ||
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| Get Doyle Brunson's "Super Sysetem". It's a great book and I think you'll find it very very helpful. Also, go to www.pokerportal.com (great website). And if you can't find what you're looking for there, then may I suggest ...... www.trollsareus.com Good luck buddy! | ||
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| can any one help !(urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, mandeep, 6. Jul 2003 05:23 | ||
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| can any one help as if i wanted to buy the whole book I would not have pasted in the forum ? is there any one who can answer this please . | ||
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| Re: can any one help !(urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, 4 POKER, 6. Jul 2003 05:26 | ||
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| I'm pretttttty sure ya have ta' buy the whole book.....but I could be mistaken. It'll definitely be worth the investment. | ||
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| Re: can any one help !(urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, mandeep, 6. Jul 2003 05:34 | ||
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| reviews say the book is outdated ? in all the sites even amazon.com do u feel the book will solve the purpose as I mentioned in my posting ? | ||
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| Re: can any one help !(urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, 4 POKER, 6. Jul 2003 05:37 | ||
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| URGENT: DOYLE BRUNSON'S SUPER SYSTEM...........AND QUICK!! | ||
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| Re: (urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, flintsword, 6. Jul 2003 09:05 | ||
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| 4 POKER, I have never seen that particular website. Thank you! flintsword | ||
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| Re: (urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, 4 POKER, 6. Jul 2003 06:50 | ||
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| If you need any help with Omaha.......Onlinechamp would love to help you. He's becoming one of our regular posters and he really is the best there is. In fact, he just came up with his very own poker forum. http://forum.onlinechamppoker.com/ ................ check it out! You owe me one now, champ...................... (wink). 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: (urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, flintsword, 6. Jul 2003 09:22 | ||
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| Hello Mandeep, It seems that you are thirsty for poker knowledge. That is good and I wish you every success. Be organized. Absorb poker information with care so your memory is a warehouse, not a wild festival. Yes, 4 POKER is right that the Doyle book is great one, though I have a real weakness for Sklansky and T.J. Cloutier. We are all at UPF waiting for Roy to produce a book in 2004 ... ***grin***. I would STRONGLY suggest you obtain a number of poker books that are more your level first. POKER for DUMMIES is a good ground zero poker book and will answer the questions you ask. A good, basic poker strategy is TOP, or "Theory of Poker", by Sklansky. Sklansky goes to the heart of the game of poker. For your entertainment, mandeep, here is a (true) poker story that I often give new posters, called "Fortune's Smile", which appeared in Harpers Magazine in 2001 I believe. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Here it is: www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m1111/1807_301/68018764/p1/article.jhtml Best of fortune and I wish you successful games. If you need more information, do not hesitate to post your clear question on UPF. flintsword | ||
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| Re: (urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, stdioh, 6. Jul 2003 16:02 | ||
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| > Problem 1: > ======== > Which of the following hands are not considered for 'Lo' hand > 1. ROYAL FLUSH > 2. STRAIGHT FLUSH > 3. FULL HOUSE > 4. FLUSH > 5. STRAIGHT > 6. 3 OF A KIND > 7. 2 PAIRS > 8. 1 PAIR > 9. HIGH CARD The low hand is formed by taking the lowest combination of 2 cards from your hand and three cards from the board. Suits are irrelevant in this. Thus if you have Ad2dKsJs in your hand and the board shows 3d4d5dKcJc then your high hand is the straight flush (steel wheel) Ad2d3d4d5d and your low hand is a low of A2345. The low goes to whoever can make the best low hand, not to whoever's high hand is the worst. > Problem 2: > ======== > Assuming a player is new to poker game. > How can a player use 'Ace' card for making his best hand out of his pocket > cards + community cards? > Some times 'Ace' is evaluated as value 14 (higher than King, bearing value 13) > to play high (e.g. royal flush) > but sometimes it is evaluated as value 1. It is also confusing when it is being > used as kicker value and player > is confused whether to use his 'Ace' card as value '14'(highest) or as value > '1' (lowest). I hope u could help me > out in understanding the use of 'Ace' in poker games. Ace always is seen to have the rank of "14" when using it as a kicker, as a pair, etc. The only times when ace is used for a rank of "1" is when making a straight to the 5: (A2345 - the wheel) or when being used for a low hand. It is acceptable to use the same ace for both a high and a low in Omaha8. So if you have AA23 in your hand and the board is A2456 then you have a high hand of AAA22 (aces full of deuces) and a low hand of A2345. In this case both your aces are used for the high and one is used for the low. This is fine. > Problem 3: > ======== > Can a player choose to sitout when it is his turn to pay high blind bet? Not really. If you sit out when it is your turn to pay the big blind then you must sit out until it is your turn to pay the big blind again. You can't just play the free hands. Alternatively, you can make a rule that allows the missed blind to pay after the puck passes him. He doesn't get to deal (you don't get the puck unless you've paid your blinds) but after the puck is passed him he can post a big blind (there are now two big blinds posted) and surrender his small blind (it goes into the pot and isn't part of his bet - it is dead money). Under no circumstances could you avoid paying your blinds altogether. If you could do that then you could make a lot of money never paying the blinds and only playing AA. > I would appreciate if u could also suggest me some web source regarding in > depth knowledge of poker game > where i could learn to solve problems like above. Start off with books. It sounds like you are very new to poker, so I would suggest you get a copy of "Poker for Dummies" ... there is a lot of value in this book for a beginner. As for web sites, you can read CardPlayer magazine on line at www.cardplayer.com - it should help to get you started too. | ||
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| Re: (urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, Nathaniel Brous, 6. Jul 2003 16:32 | ||
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| on 6. Jul 2003 16:02 stdioh wrote: <snip> < It is acceptable to use the same ace for both a high and a low in Omaha8. So if you have AA23 in your hand and the board is A2456 then you have a high hand of AAA22 (aces full of deuces) and a low hand of A2345. In this case both your aces are used for the high and one is used for the low. This is fine.> Er...Stdioh...a little quick on the draw here. His high would also be a straight. He can only play two cards(for the high). - Nathaniel Brous | ||
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| Re: (urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, stdioh, 6. Jul 2003 16:48 | ||
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| Zoinks. That's what I get for working on a Sunday. I'll correct the original. Thaks Nate. Fudge...it seems I'm not able to correct the post. Hrmph. Yeah, mea culpa on that. I've been playing too much stud and hold'em lately I guess. | ||
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| Omaha Hi/lo prob, mandeep, 8. Jul 2003 06:12 | ||
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| Please see the following case. I got it from a site. I was not able to understand the case for player #3 (marked between *'s). As Player3 has a possibility to make [3c 3h 5c 4h 2h - low hand of one pair] or [4s 4c 4h 5c 3h - low hand of 3 of a kind] this page says that Player 3 cannot make his low hand... Is it like that low hand is applicable in straight hands only as it seems from rest of three cases? Where am I making a mistake? Please help me out.. Kindly do send me example hands to make me understand easily.. Thanks in anticipation.. ;)) <=====================> Sample Hands A sample deal shows how players form their hands. For example, four players start with these hands: Player 1: As 2s Ks Kd Player 2: Ah 2c 3s 3d Player 3: 2h 3c 4s 4c Player 4: 6h 7h 6c 7d The board ends up this way: 3h 4h 5c Kh Kc. These are the final hands: Player 1 uses the As 2s to form his best low hand, As 2s 3h 4h 5c (a wheel). Player 1 uses the Ks Kd to form his best high hand, Ks Kd Kh Kc 5c (four kings). Player 2 uses the Ah 2c to form his best low hand, Ah 2c 3h 4h 5c (a wheel). Player 2 uses the 3s 3d to form his best high hand, 3s 3d 3h Kh Kc (a full house, threes full of kings). ***Player 3 cannot make a low hand. ***** Player 3 uses the 4s 4c to form his best high hand, 4s 4c 4h Kh Kc (a full house, fours full of kings). Player 4 uses any of his 6-7 combinations to form his best low hand, 3-4-5-6-7. Player 4 uses the 6h 7h to form his best high hand, Kh 7h 6h 4h 3h (a king-high flush). <===================> Sorry the books will take 10days to reach me so I have to depend on u experts ! btw since I am still learnig so not use to short words like "omaha8" i understand as ho/lo right ? | ||
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| Re: Omaha Hi/lo prob, stdioh, 9. Jul 2003 11:51 | ||
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| I think I answered this yesterday in another thread, so I'm going to leave it be here. | ||
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| Re: (urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, mandeep, 7. Jul 2003 03:10 | ||
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| stdioh ! Thanks alot man God Bless u .... I have been searching for the answer all over ... btw have Bought two books from amazon " Poker For Dummies " and "Fundamentals of Poker" . Thanks once again on 6. Jul 2003 16:02 stdioh wrote: > > Problem 1: > > ======== > > Which of the following hands are not considered for 'Lo' hand > > 1. ROYAL FLUSH > > 2. STRAIGHT FLUSH > > 3. FULL HOUSE > > 4. FLUSH > > 5. STRAIGHT > > 6. 3 OF A KIND > > 7. 2 PAIRS > > 8. 1 PAIR > > 9. HIGH CARD > > The low hand is formed by taking the lowest combination of 2 cards from your hand > and three cards from the board. Suits are irrelevant in this. Thus if you have > Ad2dKsJs in your hand and the board shows 3d4d5dKcJc then your high hand is the > straight flush (steel wheel) Ad2d3d4d5d and your low hand is a low of A2345. The low > goes to whoever can make the best low hand, not to whoever's high hand is the > worst. > > > Problem 2: > > ======== > > Assuming a player is new to poker game. > > How can a player use 'Ace' card for making his best hand out of his pocket > > cards + community cards? > > Some times 'Ace' is evaluated as value 14 (higher than King, bearing value 13) > > to play high (e.g. royal flush) > > but sometimes it is evaluated as value 1. It is also confusing when it is being > > used as kicker value and player > > is confused whether to use his 'Ace' card as value '14'(highest) or as value > > '1' (lowest). I hope u could help me > > out in understanding the use of 'Ace' in poker games. > > Ace always is seen to have the rank of "14" when using it as a kicker, as a pair, > etc. The only times when ace is used for a rank of "1" is when making a straight to > the 5: (A2345 - the wheel) or when being used for a low hand. It is acceptable to use > the same ace for both a high and a low in Omaha8. So if you have AA23 in your hand > and the board is A2456 then you have a high hand of AAA22 (aces full of deuces) and a > low hand of A2345. In this case both your aces are used for the high and one is used > for the low. This is fine. > > > Problem 3: > > ======== > > Can a player choose to sitout when it is his turn to pay high blind bet? > > Not really. If you sit out when it is your turn to pay the big blind then you must > sit out until it is your turn to pay the big blind again. You can't just play the > free hands. Alternatively, you can make a rule that allows the missed blind to pay > after the puck passes him. He doesn't get to deal (you don't get the puck unless > you've paid your blinds) but after the puck is passed him he can post a big blind > (there are now two big blinds posted) and surrender his small blind (it goes into the > pot and isn't part of his bet - it is dead money). Under no circumstances could you > avoid paying your blinds altogether. If you could do that then you could make a lot > of money never paying the blinds and only playing AA. > > > I would appreciate if u could also suggest me some web source regarding in > > depth knowledge of poker game > > where i could learn to solve problems like above. > > Start off with books. It sounds like you are very new to poker, so I would suggest > you get a copy of "Poker for Dummies" ... there is a lot of value in this book for a > beginner. As for web sites, you can read CardPlayer magazine on line at > www.cardplayer.com - it should help to get you started too. | ||
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| Re: (urgent ! )winner decleration problem poker ?, stdioh, 7. Jul 2003 04:28 | ||
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| No problems. I'm glad to help bring new players into the world of poker. Good luck learning the ropes and try not to lose too much money while you're still learning ;) | ||
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