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 Online poker and my fading memory, Jav, 2. Jul 2003 15:37 | ||
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| So I've been playing mostly on-line poker in the last six months, and I've noticed a disturbing trend. When I go to B&M casino's now, I have the hardest time remembering my hole cards. This is especially a problem in Omaha. I get paranoid enough looking at my cards once, but having to look at them again is a pain in the butt. With on-line play, you always have your cards staring you right in the face, so I don't ever practice memorizing them. Is this easy for most people, or do you have to make a concerted effort every hand to memorize your cards? After a couple hours of play they all blend together for me... This did work out in my favor recently though. I was in a Limit HE tournament in the BB, and looked down to see A,4o. There was one limper and SB limped in, and I checked. Flop came 4,4,8 (I'm not positive about the 8, but it was a rag with at least two gaps from the 4). SB bet, I called, the other limper called. Turn was nothing scary, SB bet, I raised, the other caller folded. The river was nothing scary, SB checked, I bet, and SB folded. I turned over my cards and actually had A,5o. Lol, I guess I played it convincingly. | ||
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| Re: Online poker and my fading memory, MozMan, 2. Jul 2003 15:43 | ||
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| Hey- If you want to strengthen those memory skills during online play, put a post-it over the cards, then only peek on the deal like you would at the B&M... -Moz "My name is Homer. I'm only here 'cause the court made me come." | ||
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| Re: Online poker and my fading memory, Paul Stine, 2. Jul 2003 21:22 | ||
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| on 2. Jul 2003 15:43 MozMan wrote: > Hey- > > If you want to strengthen those memory skills during online play, put a post-it over > the cards, then only peek on the deal like you would at the B&M... > > -Moz > > "My name is Homer. I'm only here 'cause the court made me come." Great idea! Your poker game takes work and maintanence, just like a car. If you are having trouble remembering your hole cards, take a little more time reading them, not just looking at them. A drill that can help to to deal, face down, five pairs of cards. Read the first hand, put it down, read the second hand, put it down, etc until you have looked at all five hands. Now try and remember what they are, in order, from first to fifth. Now do it over, and over and over for about an hour. Train your brain to remember the cards after you have read them. Paul Stine College Station, TX | ||
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| More Drills please, PokerDude, 3. Jul 2003 00:21 | ||
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| That is a great idea. Do you know of any more drills? I have trouble remembering them....lol Officially Licensed Dude | ||
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| Re: More Drills please, 4 POKER, 3. Jul 2003 00:30 | ||
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| Have you been drinking again dude? (LOL) | ||
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| Re: More Drills please, PokerDude, 3. Jul 2003 08:11 | ||
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| Only when i'm sitting at the table (lol) Officially Licensed Dude | ||
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| Re: More Drills please, 4 POKER, 3. Jul 2003 08:16 | ||
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| Fair enough. Cheers dude! | ||
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| Re: More Drills please, Jav, 3. Jul 2003 10:44 | ||
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| Great ideas! | ||
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| Re: More Drills please, stdioh, 4. Jul 2003 08:59 | ||
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| I used to be able to remember all of the 52 cards in a deck in the order that they came out and the way I did that was a common memory technique. I would picture each card with a thing that represented each number. To start, just do 10 and then work it up from there, inventing new things to put the cards with. If memory serves, it was: 1: a dick 2: a heart 3: a butt 4: an axe 5: a ladle 6: a camera film 7: a hockey stick 8: a snowman 9: a rocking chair 10: a ball and bat etc... The sillier the construction, the easier to remember. So if the cards came out Kh2d3s7h... I would be thinking of the Kh with a big boner, then a heart shaped card of the 2d, then a 3s sticking out of a buttcrack, the 7h being chopped with an axe, etc. I would find each of these silly visualizations very easy to remember for a short period and then I could go through after and if somebody said, "What was the ninth card out," I could think of all the little pictures I had created in my mind, think about which card was sitting in a rocking chair in that picture, and come out with it. Works rather nicely when you don't have to explain to people how you do it - makes you look smart. | ||
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| Re: Online poker and my fading memory, stdioh, 4. Jul 2003 08:52 | ||
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| That's a great idea. | ||
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| Re: Online poker and my fading memory, stdioh, 4. Jul 2003 08:52 | ||
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| I find that rehearsal is the best way to memorize cards, etc. I'm in the fortunate position of having moved to poker from blackjack, so I was very used to having 5 threads of memory going in my head at once (basic strategy, current index, count of the deck, talking to the guy next to me, and ordering a coke) so remembering which cards I have isn't so tough at poker, but even I forget sometimes. In the event that I need to look again, which might happen to me once every session or two, I'll usually not try to be furtive about it. So when the flop comes all spades and I forget what suit my ace is, I might say, "now what were my cards again?" and check. Then people are left wondering if I have a made flush and am trying to shoot an angle, if I have nothing, if I have the ace, etc. If I just look it screams, "I wonder what suit my ace is." Still, you really shouldn't have to look. What I do is arrange my cards in order and do the rank and suit seperately. I always go highest to lowest. So if I have KhQs then I think, "king-queen-hearts-spades" if I have 3dAd then I think "ace-three-diamonds" ... thus you can remember 4 simple things instead of 2 complex things and I find it much easier not to forget them. Most of the time your suits become irrelevant on the flop anyway and you can stop thinking about them. | ||
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| Re: Online poker and my fading memory, MozMan, 4. Jul 2003 11:15 | ||
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| Exactly. I like your visualization technique too; though I'm not a terribly visual person. Words and numbers work better for me, just my mental type I guess. An dI do exaclty what you've described here, "rank-rank-suit-(suit)" and it seems to work wonders for me. I used to play BJ as well, and it took a long, long time, but I was eventually able to count fairly proficiently. I had to make a lot of trips to Vegas and Laughlin, because BJ was illegal here; then I discovered a game my B&M had called, "Arizona 21," which was based on BJ but was a players game. Being played with only one deck, my counting skills made this game TREMENDOUSLY profitable for me. But when BJ became legal, Player 21 went away, and all the casinos here use perpetualy shufflers and 4-6 decks for BJ... not worth playing more than $20 for pure entertainment. Perpetual shufflers make counting impossible... So, that's when/why I took up poker! :) -Moz "My name is Homer. I'm only here 'cause the court made me come." | ||
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| Re: Online poker and my fading memory, stdioh, 4. Jul 2003 14:37 | ||
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| All the BJ I've played in Canada is on a 6 deck shoe and there's nothing wrong with that. As long as they don't cut too much off the bottom of the deck, I prefer 6 decks because you can slowly profit until a monster hot deck comes at the end of a pack (and with 6 decks the disgustingly hot last pack can be *very* profitable) and then I can switch over to guerrilla tactics, spred out to three spots, make maximum bets on each, say something about feeling lucky, play the end of the shoe, and have my chips cashed in and be in the parking lot before anybody starts to discuss whether or not they think I might have been counting. I had one very narrow escape from the river boat on the Fraser River in Vancouver this way ... wonderful blackjack game ... great rule set (including surrender!), small pack cut off, and limits from $5-$500 on every table ... and they don't do enough business to be packed so it is easy to spread out. Of course once I started playing poker a lot at Brantford I stopped playing blackjack there entirely, since it's the best poker around and I would really rather not be told that I am nolonger a guest of the casino. | ||
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