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 Logic of making a strattle bet, Rick Mathews, 30. Jun 2003 12:46 | ||
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| What is the reasoning behind making a strattle bet? | ||
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| Re: Logic of making a strattle bet, socket, 30. Jun 2003 12:49 | ||
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| to take away the advantage of the big blind limping in. he now has to call your raise in order to play. | ||
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| Re: Logic of making a strattle bet, PokerDude, 30. Jun 2003 12:56 | ||
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| the straddle also then has last action on the preflop, doesn't he? Officially Licensed Dude | ||
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| Re: Logic of making a strattle bet, Snorbolus, 30. Jun 2003 13:02 | ||
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| The straddle has an option to raise if it is called around. However, if there is a call and then a raise the straddle does not have last action preflop. Snorbolus on 30. Jun 2003 12:56 PokerDude wrote: > the straddle also then has last action on the preflop, doesn't he? > > > > > Officially Licensed Dude | ||
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| Re: Logic of making a strattle bet, Risky Business, 30. Jun 2003 13:38 | ||
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| Woops.......the straddler re-raises, capping it. on 30. Jun 2003 13:02 Snorbolus wrote: > The straddle has an option to raise if it is called around. However, if there is a call and > then a raise the straddle does not have last action preflop. > > Snorbolus > > on 30. Jun 2003 12:56 PokerDude wrote: > > the straddle also then has last action on the preflop, doesn't he? > > > > > > > > > > Officially Licensed Dude | ||
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| Re: Logic of making a strattle bet, Snorbolus, 30. Jun 2003 13:48 | ||
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| When the straddler re-raises isn't that only the 2nd raise, leaving the possibility of a 3rd behind? I didn't think that the original straddle counted as a raise. I could be wrong about that though. Snorbolus on 30. Jun 2003 13:38 Risky Business wrote: > Woops.......the straddler re-raises, capping it. | ||
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| Depends on the house rule, Easy E, 30. Jun 2003 20:06 | ||
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| Sometimes the straddler acts in turn, sometimes he acts last. It's similar in concept to kill pots (although not exactly the same) | ||
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| Re: Logic of making a strattle bet, Snorbolus, 30. Jun 2003 12:59 | ||
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| You can do that by just raising after you have looked at your cards, if you like what you see. There is no good reason to make a straddle bet, unless you like the other players at the table and want to give them a better than usual chance to win your money. Snorbolus on 30. Jun 2003 12:49 socket wrote: > to take away the advantage of the big blind limping in. he now has to call your raise > in order to play. | ||
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| Re: Logic of making a strattle bet, Snorbolus, 30. Jun 2003 13:10 | ||
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| Incidently, being in the big blind is not an advantage. If you think that it is you can simulate the experience from any position by always calling without looking at your cards. Of course it is not quite the same because you wont have the shitty position. Nevertheless, it will be close. Snorbolus > on 30. Jun 2003 12:49 socket wrote: > > to take away the advantage of the big blind limping in. he now has to call your raise > > > in order to play. | ||
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| Re: Logic of making a strattle bet, Snorbolus, 30. Jun 2003 13:17 | ||
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| Sorry, I didn't mean for my last 3 posts to sound quite so scathing. I was just trying to emphasise what a bad idea I think it is to post straddle bets. Snorbolus | ||
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| Re: Logic of making a strattle bet, NiceFella, 30. Jun 2003 20:49 | ||
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| The only logic I see in the straddle is in trying to "wake up" a dull, tight game. Otherwise it's just foolishness. I generally only see weak, loose players addicted to action pulling this stunt. I love it. Give me a pocket pair and let's party. | ||
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| Re: Logic of making a strattle bet, balik, 30. Jun 2003 23:53 | ||
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| I love it when someone straddles. I must agree, I think it is a terrible play. I never call a straddle. If I have a playable hand, I raise. This will usually force out the small and big blinds unless they have a terrific hand, and the straddler usually will call. I played at the B&M yesterday and saw 8 straddles. When I played I raised everytime. Once, I had pocket Aces in late position and got to cap the betting. Flopped the set with the straddler holding the case Ace and betting into me and calling my raise every time. She later admitted that she thought I was trying to steal the pot. I truly believe that if you are in a game and a straddle is played, your only play is to raise or fold. Yes it's true you might get reraised if you are in early position, but most of the time you will be in control of the table. | ||
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| Re: Logic of making a strattle bet, Snorbolus, 1. Jul 2003 05:12 | ||
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| I think that you are right about the raise or fold thing. What is the worst hand that you would riase with, if you were in early position and first in after a straddler? My feeling is that something like ATo is about the limit. Snorbolus > I truly believe that if you are in a game and a straddle is played, your only play is to > raise or fold. Yes it's true you might get reraised if you are in early position, but > most of the time you will be in control of the table. | ||
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| Re: Logic of making a strattle bet, shorn, 1. Jul 2003 05:49 | ||
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| There is no logic to doing it yourself unless you want to be the person donating dead money into the pot. However, you love to see others doing it because it is the same thing as a lot of stupid players calling with crap like Q5o. So, if you play the hand, you should definitely raise to try and isolate the straddler. There is no sense in calling with the possible exception of being just to the left of the straddler while holding AA. That way, you might be able to limp re-raise and build a big pot where you are the heavy favorite. | ||
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| Re: Logic of making a strattle bet, Roy Cooke, 1. Jul 2003 06:09 | ||
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| It gives you a chance to win a big pot and get off tilt :-) Roy Cooke on 30. Jun 2003 12:46 Rick Mathews wrote: > What is the reasoning behind making a strattle bet? | ||
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