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 Tipping Guidelines, Bill A., 30. Jun 2003 05:12 | ||
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| Are there any basic tipping guidelines to follow. Right now, I am generally playing in 6-12, 8-16, and 10-20 games. I want to be generous, but it can really skew the hourly rate. Thanks everyone. Bill A | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, 4 POKER, 30. Jun 2003 05:29 | ||
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| on 30. Jun 2003 05:12 Bill A. wrote: > > Are there any basic tipping guidelines to follow. Right now, I am generally > playing in 6-12, 8-16, and 10-20 games. I want to be generous, but it can really > skew the hourly rate. Thanks everyone. Well, if you want to be really generous than my suggestion for tipping may not seem big enough for you. But, you did say that it can really cut into the hourly rate. IMO, on the average, you should be tipping $1 per hand and on occasion if and when you win a monster pot or are just really satisfied by a dealers performance, than at that time you may want to be a little bit more generous. But, on a whole, I tip $1 and trust me, it adds up, not only in your hourly rate.... but in their pockets as well. 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, Risky Business, 30. Jun 2003 06:45 | ||
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| $1 for any pot with at least a few people or 2 going to the showdown, and $2 max, on monsters. Nothing if it ends before the turn or is checked on the flop and bet/fold on the turn. They understand too, don't ever feel guilty about it. on 30. Jun 2003 05:29 4 POKER wrote: > on 30. Jun 2003 05:12 Bill A. wrote: > > > > Are there any basic tipping guidelines to follow. Right now, I am generally > > playing in 6-12, 8-16, and 10-20 games. I want to be generous, but it can really > > > skew the hourly rate. Thanks everyone. > > > Well, if you want to be really generous than my suggestion for tipping may not seem > big enough for you. But, you did say that it can really cut into the hourly rate. > IMO, on the average, you should be tipping $1 per hand and on occasion if and when > you win a monster pot or are just really satisfied by a dealers performance, than at > that time you may want to be a little bit more generous. But, on a whole, I tip $1 > and trust me, it adds up, not only in your hourly rate.... but in their pockets as > well. > > 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, Bill A., 30. Jun 2003 11:35 | ||
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| Thanks 4 Poker as always for the good advice. My instinct is to tip bigger, but I need to watch it. If you play a full day of poker, tipping can exceed 75 -100 bucks a day or more. That is probably unwise. Bill A | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines (tournament play), Jav, 30. Jun 2003 13:21 | ||
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| Since we're talking about tipping. I played in my first and only live Omaha 8 tournament last week and placed 2nd. (They stopped the tournament when it got down to four players and payed out 1st through 4th based on stack size). There were only 30 players to start, and it was a $10 buy in $10 add on tourney. I think I got paid $273. (And an entry into a $1000 added tournament coming up.) The person running the tournament mentioned to the winners that we should leave money for the dealers (which makes perfect sense). He said we should leave 20%. I guess in tournament play the winners really have to tip for everyone in the tournament since the dealers don't make a toke for each hand. But I was just wondering if 20% was standard or not. It seemed a little high to me, and personally I thought two of the three dealers were very good but one made several mistakes and was rude to several players on top of the mistakes.... (So I really don't know how to handle tipping in that situation...). I think I left $25, but I'm not sure if that was about right or not. Incidentally, I had never played Omaha 8 until a month or so ago. I got lots of good advice on this forum, so thanks everybody! | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines (tournament play), Risky Business, 30. Jun 2003 13:45 | ||
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| As always, tipping is up to he who pays. If it's warranted, do it. If not, don't, and go about your business. You're never obligated and anyone that tells me 20% is insulting me. Most likely, I'll tell the dealer that his pit boss cost him his tip by "informing" me of that huge percentage. That's crap. Most tournaments do take a percentage "for the dealers", which may or may not include the tips. I won $500 in a tourney and gave the guy $20....4% for all you whizzes. They're screwed in the head if they think I'm chipping in $100. How idiotic is that!! By the way, he smiled, shook my hand, and said thank you after getting $5 from the tournament winner. on 30. Jun 2003 13:21 Jav wrote: > Since we're talking about tipping. I played in my first and only live Omaha 8 tournament > last week and placed 2nd. (They stopped the tournament when it got down to four players > and payed out 1st through 4th based on stack size). There were only 30 players to start, > and it was a $10 buy in $10 add on tourney. > > I think I got paid $273. (And an entry into a $1000 added tournament coming up.) The > person running the tournament mentioned to the winners that we should leave money for the > dealers (which makes perfect sense). He said we should leave 20%. I guess in tournament > play the winners really have to tip for everyone in the tournament since the dealers don't > make a toke for each hand. But I was just wondering if 20% was standard or not. It > seemed a little high to me, and personally I thought two of the three dealers were very > good but one made several mistakes and was rude to several players on top of the > mistakes.... (So I really don't know how to handle tipping in that situation...). > > I think I left $25, but I'm not sure if that was about right or not. > > Incidentally, I had never played Omaha 8 until a month or so ago. I got lots of good > advice on this forum, so thanks everybody! | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines (tournament play), timmer, 30. Jun 2003 16:35 | ||
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| FOOKIN A !! 20% ?!?! 10% is nuts as well. I would of left 5% and felt good. your never gunna make it is a tourney player leaving your stake on the table like that. You might suggest they institute a small pre tourney toke pool add on of $3 for X% more chips. 20% is not standard, 2 to 3% is . 5% for small daily tourneys is normal. on 30. Jun 2003 13:21 Jav wrote: He said we should leave 20%. But I was just wondering if 20% was standard or not. It seems high to me. | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, SendMoney, 30. Jun 2003 08:35 | ||
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| I usually don't tip on chop pots unless they're really huge, don't tip on small pots, and don't tip on bet and take it pots that don't make it to the river - otherwise I give a buck for a most modest pots and two for the real monsters. Understand the dealers are there to make money, but so are you. | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, timmer, 30. Jun 2003 11:30 | ||
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| end toke good dealers on downs where you win an average pot or so otherwise dont unless the dealer does a very good job at running a clean game. | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, Risky Business, 30. Jun 2003 11:50 | ||
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| Another thing I do is keep a fold of ones in my shirt pocket for the waitresses. It helps me keep my poker accurate. on 30. Jun 2003 11:30 timmer wrote: > end toke good dealers on downs where you win an average pot or so > otherwise dont unless the dealer does a very good job at running a clean game. | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, timmer, 30. Jun 2003 16:39 | ||
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| i also tip from my pocket or from a small stack of halves to the side of my stack. Golden Sakagawea Dollars also make good tips on 30. Jun 2003 11:50 Risky Business wrote: > Another thing I do is keep a fold of ones in my shirt pocket for the waitresses. It helps > me keep my poker accurate. > > on 30. Jun 2003 11:30 timmer wrote: > > end toke good dealers on downs where you win an average pot or so > > otherwise dont unless the dealer does a very good job at running a clean game. | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, Jav, 30. Jun 2003 16:52 | ||
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| on 30. Jun 2003 11:50 Risky Business wrote: > Another thing I do is keep a fold of ones in my shirt pocket for the waitresses. It helps > me keep my poker accurate. A pocketful of ones is also good for tipping at other fun places, but that's for another forum! | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, PokerDude, 1. Jul 2003 06:08 | ||
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| only one pocket full??? Officially Licensed Dude | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, Mark, 30. Jun 2003 18:16 | ||
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| Generally i hate tipping for poker. The casinos already rakes the sh*t out of the games anyway, and unless you play really big limit, the time charges are usually a close to a big bet per hour. So i find it really hard to give away my money unless the dealer is really good AND can control the table. I don't tip when i'm stuck, that would be like paying someone to take your money. Now that being said, if am having a good night and the dealers know what they're doing, i will generally tip a small amount, but 20% is rediculous. mark | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, mongi, 30. Jun 2003 21:30 | ||
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| How about if you win a Jackpot? I here people talk about 10-20%. So if you were to win 10,000 they would tip 1-2000 dollars. That seems a bit much for me. Do you tip the cashiers after you have booked a win? Do you tip the cashiers after winning a jackpot? Is their anybody else you might include? | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, Risky Business, 1. Jul 2003 08:43 | ||
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| Calm down!! Do you tip pit bosses too? That may be a way to get comps, but damn, tipping is for service, not because you won something. on 30. Jun 2003 21:30 mongi wrote: > How about if you win a Jackpot? I here people talk about 10-20%. So if you were to win > 10,000 they would tip 1-2000 dollars. That seems a bit much for me. > > Do you tip the cashiers after you have booked a win? > Do you tip the cashiers after winning a jackpot? > Is their anybody else you might include? | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, PokerDude, 1. Jul 2003 05:37 | ||
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| i don't play much B&M, and the onlline dealers IMO don't deserve anything, but have a suggestion.... bring along seperate monies for tokes, and if the dealer impresses you, give him 2-3 bux when dealer changes. is this a good way to tip, anyone? thoughts? Officially Licensed Dude | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, timmer, 1. Jul 2003 07:24 | ||
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| i think it is a great way I dont know what limit you are playing but if it is low you could be blasting off 200% of your profit margin. | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, Peter Dimas, 2. Jul 2003 21:33 | ||
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| I tip $1 for a good pot and $.50 for an average one. Believe me, as someone who lives off of tips ANYTHING is appreciated. There is one dealer, whoever, who never gets a dime out of me. He's an old surly asshead and if you made as many mistakes getting out of bed in the morning as he does at the poker table, you'd be dead before breakfast.. The last time I played, no less than 3 times I had mucked my hand and when action got back around to me he sat there staring at me saying "your call" in this demeaning voice because I was "holding up the game". The last time I asked him "I don't have any goddamn cards in front of me, do I?" He may have a punch to the balls coming to him soon. :) Peter | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, 4 POKER, 2. Jul 2003 21:54 | ||
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| Peter, I totally agree with you. No dealer should be tipped for incompitence... ever. There are so many of them who feel that their only job is to deal the cards and that's it. Well it is their job to make sure that the game runs smoothly, there is no hostility to be tolerated, players must speak English at all times when the cards are being dealt out, they should be able to read the board (especially in Omaha where so many of them just sit there acting like a brain-dead dummy),and I could go on and on with this subject, too. Tipping is a priveledge, it is not mandatory and for anyone of them who thinks that it is, better be doing a really good job then, period. I know of a dealer who works at the Tropicana in Atlantic City who is SO professional, it's scarey. He also plays poker so maybe this has something to do with it but...if he deals you a hand and he feels that the pot wasn't really big enough for you to throw him a tip, believe it or not he will actually give it back to you and say, "hey, next time, ok,".When was the last time you ever heard of a dealer who did that and honestly meant it with no sarcasm at all? He's a real cool guy and a great dealer to boot. And if you're ever at the Trop, his name is Mac...he's the best! 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, str82tko, 3. Jul 2003 05:37 | ||
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| No doubt this dealer is a professional as you state and too prove it he gives a toke back on a small pot. Why? Not because he doesn't want your money but he knows by providing that service he will get more out of you on the bigger pots possibly. It's professional salesmanship and customer service. Make them think you are concerned for them and they will pay. I used that ploy for years in the gaming business in Reno and it works!! Nothing wrong with it either, you give excellent service for which you get paid off bigger at times thus, you and the player both win. | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, 4 POKER, 3. Jul 2003 06:05 | ||
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| brrrr. That may be so but man, that sounds cold. I was allowing myself to believe that there is ONE really cool dealer out there if nothing else but you just knocked the wind right outta that sail! I hear what you're saying though, I do. I understand that is how customer servive works but at least he HAS customer service skills. And yeah, sometimes I will tip him a little bit extra but it's not because he threw me back my dollar......it's because he runs the game perfectly every single minute that he is in the box and that nice gesture he does on top of that is just a bonus. | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, str82tko, 3. Jul 2003 17:33 | ||
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| Let's put some wind back in those sails...You know, you probably DO have a great dealer who does a bang up job and for the right reasons, he cares about his game. There are a few of those. I fancied myself as one. I did not deal poker but blackjack and found that I really did care if my customers had a good time. You could always tell when you were doing your job and providing excellent care & feeding of the customer...when they kept toking you even when you were killin' them. Same goes for the poker bretheran or craps crew etc. Having said all those things but when push comes to shove bottom line is : Dollars and care and loyalty are just that, 1 dollar deep. Just human nature but it'a all good. | ||
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| Re: Tipping Guidelines, stdioh, 4. Jul 2003 09:25 | ||
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| I tip one white chip for every pot I win that has more than 2 big bets in it. Basically I tip for every pot where I didn't steal the blinds or Take it down on the flop with very few players. If there is a giant monster pot, I tip 2. I basically think of it like a rake. | ||
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