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 $10,000 Freeroll hand, Mark, 28. Jun 2003 13:16 | ||
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| I have a question about my play in a freeroll where the top 18 players had free entry into a tourny with a $10,000 prize pool. It was advertised on this site. I started off the tourny a little tight-weak becasue i was wanted to make sure i lasted till the end. But i eventually found my rythem and started playing well. My reads were right on, and towards the middle of the tournament i had 1.5 to 2 times the avg stack, and flirted with the chip lead a few times. So, there are 30 players left and i have a slightly above average stack. My table is pretty tight, with few flops being seen. I have around T5000. There is one T11,000 stack at my table and a few T5000. The table is 9 handed. I had very few good hands throughout the tournament, but stole alot of blinds because most players were playing too tight. I was playing to survive, not win. I get JJ in early middle position. I raise 3x the blinds(T600) for a total of T1800. Most raises at the this table were only about T1200, so this might have been a bit of over kill. But i wanted to win the blinds or have the BB call me with something marginal like AJ. But i get surprised by a late position caller (LP). LP was a tight player who didn't bet without a very strong hand. He didn't call much, he folded or raised. He was a little too tight to get this far, but he kept getting called by weaker hands when he bet. He also had T5000. So its heads up. I put LP on AK, AQ, or QQ. He would have re-raised with AA for sure, and probably with KK. I don't think he would call with AJ (suited or not), and definately not with A-10. And i'm not really sure what he would do with QQ in this position. The flop comes 10-7-3 all spades. I bet out T1200, leaving myself with T2000 in case i get raised all-in, but he just flat calls again. hmmmmmm... The turn is an offsuit 6, what should I do? Do I bet or check? If I check, do I call a bet? Did I play the hand correct till here? Remember, i'm not playing to win, i'm trying to survive to the top 18. I was very confident in my reads, and was 99% correct. I missed one small detail. I think i miss played this hand but i won't say where. What do you all think? Mark. | ||
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| Re: $10,000 Freeroll hand, Schuster, 29. Jun 2003 21:17 | ||
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| I don't think he would call a flop bet without a better hand than yours. Did he feel frisky with 10-10? The set is out there. Would this player have called your raise with 9-9? It doesn't sound like it, although you would know better than I would have. If he has QQ, KK, or AA, you're drawing slim. I don't see why he would risk a large amount of chips on overcards and a flush draw. I think I would have to check and fold to a turn bet here. You've lost a lot of your stack, but you're trying to survive. Why risk your last 2k when your hand is looking suspicious? Keep in mind that everyone else is trying to survive ina tournament like this too, making them less likely to call if you move in before the flop as a short stack. By the way, did you have the jack of spades? Curiousity =). Lee | ||
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| Re: $10,000 Freeroll hand, Mark, 30. Jun 2003 08:56 | ||
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| > By the way, did you have the jack of spades? Curiousity =). > > Lee Yes, i had the J of spades, but i don't think it matters much. I put my opponent on a hand that had at least one higher spade. mark | ||
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| Re: $10,000 Freeroll hand, Risky Business, 30. Jun 2003 09:37 | ||
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| So you're not only putting this ultra-tight player on a better hand than yours, but you're giving him a spade too?? If you're that scared, throw the jacks away and wait for Aces ONLY. Everybody changes gears.....maybe this was his time to change things up. > > > By the way, did you have the jack of spades? Curiousity =). > > > > Lee > > Yes, i had the J of spades, but i don't think it matters much. I put my opponent on a > hand that had at least one higher spade. > > mark | ||
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| Re: $10,000 Freeroll hand, Mark, 30. Jun 2003 11:16 | ||
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| on 30. Jun 2003 09:37 Risky Business wrote: > So you're not only putting this ultra-tight player on a better hand than yours, but you're > giving him a spade too?? > > If you're that scared, throw the jacks away and wait for Aces ONLY. > > Everybody changes gears.....maybe this was his time to change things up. > This player would not call me simply with overcards and no spade, there is no way he would do that. mark | ||
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| Re: $10,000 Freeroll hand, shorn, 30. Jun 2003 11:19 | ||
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| Mark- I don't know if you saw my post, but I suggested pushing all in on the flop to put the pressure on him and "tell" him that you have at least a set and are afraid of the flush(draw), or that you have a small set. If he doesn't have the A or K of spades, i would suspect (given his tightness as you describe), that he would muck his hand right there. Your bet made it cheap enough for him to call you. | ||
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| Re: $10,000 Freeroll hand, shorn, 30. Jun 2003 04:46 | ||
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| Assuming that this read was correct as well, I might hae gone all in on the flop to represent either a set or the flush. If he has KK or below, he probably won't call you given how tight he has been. Even if he has AA, I would think he would have to have the A spades to call. The only hand that he could reasonable have and call you down without hesitation is TT and by what you said, that was unlikely given his play. I realize that your hand isn't that strong, but with a 3-suited flop, against this opponent, I push my stack in. | ||
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| Re: $10,000 Freeroll hand, Mark, 1. Jul 2003 16:43 | ||
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| Thanks for your thoughts guys. In the actual hand, i only bet T1200 on the flop because i thought that if my opponent had the flush he would put me all in right there, and if he didn't have a flush he'd fold. When he flat called my I figured he was drawing (as he didn't slow play all tournament) When a blank came on the turn i pushed all in and immediately got called. He showed AK as predicted, but what i didn't count on was that they'd both be spades! I wanted to know what you guys would do on the flop and turn. I think i miss played the turn after finding out on the flop that he had something and was probably pot committed. Against alot of other players going all-in would be o.k., but this guy was too tight to be chasing when all his chips ( or most ) were at risk. Thanks again mark | ||
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