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 I booked a winner :-), Roy Cooke, 28. Jun 2003 07:47 | ||
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| Last weekend I had my worst week of poker in my life (over 30 years of play)....Last night I played for the first time since the beating. I immediately got up $1500, then blew back $400.......The game was good, but I left to make sure I left on a positive note! That way I will regain some positive attitude back. This is one of the few times I will leave with the only reason being to book a win.....I like the theory, creating positive attitudes within myself. It helps me stand the test of time. Roy Cooke | ||
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| Re: I booked a winner :-), Mike Caro, 28. Jun 2003 10:41 | ||
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| on 28. Jun 2003 07:47 Roy Cooke wrote: > Last weekend I had my worst week of poker in my life (over 30 years of > play)....Last night I played for the first time since the beating. I immediately > got up $1500, then blew back $400.......The game was good, but I left to make > sure I left on a positive note! That way I will regain some positive attitude > back. This is one of the few times I will leave with the only reason being to > book a win.....I like the theory, creating positive attitudes within myself. It > helps me stand the test of time. > > Roy Cooke Hi, Roy -- I agree with you completely. Although there's no mathematical reason to quit when the game is good and you're fit to play, there ARE psychological benefits that most players find appealing -- when they quit and book a win. That ends the negative streak and can put most players in the right frame of mind to continue the battle tomorrow. I can't say I've done that very often when riding along on a bad streak, but perhaps I should have. Straight Flushes, Mike Caro | ||
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| Re: I booked a winner :-), Don Quixote, 28. Jun 2003 12:20 | ||
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| Hi Roy, I think this psychology thing works at all limits. I play only $.50/1, and I get depressed sometimes when I lose. I usually play for an hour or two; and if I am winning a little, I am satisfied. Last night and this morning I played til I went all in ($25 buyin). I won that pot and decided to stay around. Good thing because I then built up my stack after 3 hours to $70. Have done that quite a bit lately, all on Party Poker. My win rate there over the last several thousand hands is 3.92 BB's per hour. The WPT has brought in so many new players that I know I will win if I play long enough. Poker is all this very old guy has to do. I am probably older than Mike Caro and Oklahoma Johnny Hell or whatever to hale his name is. Thanks, Roy and Mike, for posting here. I appreciate it, and I am sure that everyone else does too. Do you think Mike Shapiro has used that hell/hale line yet. If not, he soon will....lol Again, thanks Roy, Mike and all the other great posters to this forum. I have learned much from you guys :-) Don Quixote on 28. Jun 2003 07:47 Roy Cooke wrote: > Last weekend I had my worst week of poker in my life (over 30 years of > play)....Last night I played for the first time since the beating. I immediately > got up $1500, then blew back $400.......The game was good, but I left to make > sure I left on a positive note! That way I will regain some positive attitude > back. This is one of the few times I will leave with the only reason being to > book a win.....I like the theory, creating positive attitudes within myself. It > helps me stand the test of time. > > Roy Cooke | ||
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| Re: I booked a winner :-), Roy Cooke, 29. Jun 2003 18:26 | ||
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| Hi Don Thanks a bunch for the kind words...It feels good to have your efforts appreciated. Roy Cooke on 28. Jun 2003 12:20 Don Quixote wrote: > Hi Roy, > > I think this psychology thing works at all limits. I play only $.50/1, and I get > depressed sometimes when I lose. I usually play for an hour or two; and if I am > winning a little, I am satisfied. Last night and this morning I played til I went > all in ($25 buyin). I won that pot and decided to stay around. Good thing because I > then built up my stack after 3 hours to $70. Have done that quite a bit lately, all > on Party Poker. My win rate there over the last several thousand hands is 3.92 BB's > per hour. The WPT has brought in so many new players that I know I will win if I > play long enough. > > Poker is all this very old guy has to do. I am probably older than Mike Caro and > Oklahoma Johnny Hell or whatever to hale his name is. Thanks, Roy and Mike, for > posting here. I appreciate it, and I am sure that everyone else does too. Do you > think Mike Shapiro has used that hell/hale line yet. If not, he soon will....lol > > Again, thanks Roy, Mike and all the other great posters to this forum. I have > learned much from you guys :-) > > Don Quixote > > on 28. Jun 2003 07:47 Roy Cooke wrote: > > Last weekend I had my worst week of poker in my life (over 30 years of > > play)....Last night I played for the first time since the beating. I immediately > > > got up $1500, then blew back $400.......The game was good, but I left to make > > sure I left on a positive note! That way I will regain some positive attitude > > back. This is one of the few times I will leave with the only reason being to > > book a win.....I like the theory, creating positive attitudes within myself. It > > helps me stand the test of time. > > > > Roy Cooke | ||
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| Re: I booked a winner :-), RamDannyboy, 28. Jun 2003 23:19 | ||
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| Roy, It makes perfect sense to me. I have done the same on many occasions. I find managing my state of mind is equally important as protecting my bankroll. Ordinarily I would drop limits when I hit a bad patch. Nothing unusual about that. But on occassions, I have dropped limits even when I go thru an exceptionally good run. I just hate give back easy money. I want to make sure I leave the session with a positive frame of mind. Ram | ||
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| Re: I booked a winner :-), timmer, 29. Jun 2003 07:34 | ||
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| Roy, Have you examined why this might be ? Bad cards, bad seat, bad decision making, hemorrhoids ? Call me silly call me crazy but I like to get up a winner regardless of where my chip stacks are. timmer | ||
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| Re: I booked a winner :-), Roy Cooke, 29. Jun 2003 18:30 | ||
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| Hi Timmer I like to win too....But having a winning record is not of much importance in poker. Winning the most money possible over the long run is what should be focused on....In order to make the most of opportunities that present themselves, you must risk blowing back. One of the sad realities we poker players must face :-) Roy Cooke on 29. Jun 2003 07:34 timmer wrote: > Roy, > > Have you examined why this might be ? Bad cards, bad seat, bad decision making, > hemorrhoids ? > > > Call me silly call me crazy but I like to get up a winner regardless of where my > chip stacks are. > > timmer | ||
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| Re: I booked a winner :-), 4 POKER, 30. Jun 2003 02:08 | ||
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| Hey Roy, Your statement is very true and yes, it is a sad reality that poker players must face(blowing it back). But you know something...when you're not running all that great (regardless whether it's for one month or just a week), booking a win or two in a row is so good for us mentally. Yes...It really is the long term that matters most and having the ability to make the most of an opportune situation and knowing when to "stage left"(minimize losses), are really the "Key ingredients". I myself have had a rough week at the Bellagio this week and even though it's only been about 3 or 4 days (of just getting pounded) LOL.... it sucks and is upsetting to me because I was so eager to play once again. I had put in minimal sessions while in California and decided to put in some good sessions during the tournament time here at the Bellagio. I went in focused every single time, picked my spots carefully but nothing went my way. Oh well, I know that just happens sometimes. I had one win this past week (that I think snuck its way in there somewhere,!), and I'm still eager to go right back in there tomorrow just to try and book me a winning session again. It really does have a big part on your overall well-being regardless of the long term stuff, agreed? Anyway Roy, I'm glad that you were able to "book that winner."...if nothing else...it's just a little reinsurance for you head. I've seen some of those hold-em games that you play in and I'm sure that you must get pretty frustrated at times, no? You're still one of the favorites, and that combined with smart and sensible decision making (which of course you possess) will leave you in a pretty good position to be in if you ask me, so for what it's worth...... "Keep up the winners". They taste so much sweeter! 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: I booked a winner :-), mongi, 29. Jun 2003 20:16 | ||
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| Sometimes when I have a bad session and get stuck early but then win back most of my money it feels good to leave just a slight loser for the evening.By the way I think I have broken out of my slump, I won 16 dollars the other day playing 4-8 holdem for 9 hours. thats almost one little blind bet per hour. WOO! HOO! CAN YOU FEEL IT! | ||
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| Re: I booked a winner :-), mongi, 29. Jun 2003 20:16 | ||
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| Sometimes when I have a bad session and get stuck early but then win back most of my money it feels good to leave just a slight loser for the evening.By the way I think I have broken out of my slump, I won 16 dollars the other day playing 4-8 holdem for 9 hours. thats almost one little blind bet per hour. WOO! HOO! CAN YOU FEEL IT! | ||
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| Re: I booked a winner :-), 4 POKER, 30. Jun 2003 02:31 | ||
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| Hey mongi, You feel good about that win?........Good! Because you should! Whether you book a small win, minimize your losses, or are able to maximize on your hands at any one given time is all part of poker. Our wins will not always be big ones and sometimes we can take a pretty big ($)losing session and turn it around to being just a small loss. (that's important too). Whatever it takes to make you feel positive about yourself and the game is something that truly matters. It plays an important role.....more than we may chose to even realize. 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: I booked a winner :-), shorn, 30. Jun 2003 06:11 | ||
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| Roy- Its good to get back on the black side of the ledger. I am a firm believer that booking some wins can psychologically prepare us to play better in the next session, particularly when we are running badly. We all realize that the key to long term poker success is to make a continuing series of correct decisions at the table which really have nothing to do with $$ won or lost. However, being in the correct frame of mind to make those decisions correctly (unless you are a robot with no emotion/feeling) is nearly impossible after 8 losing sessions in a row. So, it is important to book a win at these times to get the ball rolling. That a player of your caliber and expertise can go through such a stretch (especially after your "worst month of your carrer" earlier) is humbling to someone like me and invigorates me to work and study even harder so I can be prepared for the bad patches that will surely come. Thanks, Steve | ||
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| Re: I booked a winner :-), stdioh, 4. Jul 2003 14:52 | ||
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| Tell me about it. I've been down in the dumps for the whole second quarter of 2003 (and the first quarter was rollickingly good) and in my last session two things happened. I got rivered out of two enormous pots, worth well over $600 together, and I somehow managed to still be ahead by $90. It got late, I said, "forget this, I'm putting a black line in my ledger," and I went home. Yes, in general you should stay while the game is good, but there is something to be said for your ego in your play (and I don't mean ego like Schoonmaker means it in his articles, but I mean self esteem) ... if you feel like the captain of poker you will play like the captain of poker (assuming that you actually are), but if you feel like you just can't win, you'll be right. Sometimes it is important to leave early just to squeeze some juice out of that little ego boost. | ||
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