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Turbo Texas Hold'Em, Harte3, 27. Jun 2003 09:05
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I just recently acquired TTH V5.0 to help me improve my game as I am a complete novice. Problem: When playing strictly according to "Advice" I am losing my posterior. 100 hands -$278, 23 hands -$248, etc., and it is usually on the Top Pairs, Big and Small Slicks betting agressively Pre-flop and after the Flop according to the "Advice". Previous to obtaining the program I played "If the Flop doesn't Fit, Fold" and did OK. What's happening here?
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Re: Turbo Texas Hold'Em, Snorbolus, 27. Jun 2003 09:52
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"If the Flop doesn't Fit [and you are not sure what to do], Fold" is just about the single best piece of advice for play on the flop.

Snorbolus

on 27. Jun 2003 09:05 Harte3 wrote:
> I just recently acquired TTH V5.0 to help me improve my game as I am a complete
> novice. Problem: When playing strictly according to "Advice" I am losing my
> posterior. 100 hands -$278, 23 hands -$248, etc., and it is usually on the
> Top Pairs, Big and Small Slicks betting agressively Pre-flop and after the Flop
> according to the "Advice". Previous to obtaining the program I played "If the
> Flop doesn't Fit, Fold" and did OK. What's happening here?
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Re: Turbo Texas Hold'Em, hudson, 27. Jun 2003 11:20
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Try to use the software to refine your other skills, such as putting your opponents on various hands, reading them (you can adjust player attributes in the profiles menu) quickly calculating pot odds, implied odds, and favs vs, dogs, determing your outs in a matter of seconds, the occasional semi-bluff and steal, and of course pretending like you're sitting at the final table at the WSOP...
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Re: Turbo Texas Hold'Em, stdioh, 27. Jun 2003 11:38
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Just like at a real table you need to play against the players at the table. Figure out which ones are maniacs, which ones are rock, which ones are calling stations, etc. Then maybe you can start doing things like semibluffing, plain old bluffing, and playing starting hands out of position. It is all a question of playing the appropriate table texture.

I've never been able to configure a table in TTH that I couldn't solidly beat, though making a rocky table is harder to beat than making a fishy table, quite obviously.
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Re: Turbo Texas Hold'Em, Scrubbie, 27. Jun 2003 11:59
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I have a question for you. (I know, you're not supposed to answer a question, with a question.)

In Turbo Texas Holdem ... Let's say you are heads up and you fold ... Can you look to see what the player had???

Scrubbie
"See you at the final table"
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Re: Turbo Texas Hold'Em, Yeoda, 27. Jun 2003 12:01
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Yep. Unless you're playing the advisor.

If you are playing just the regular game, you can either right click on their hand to see it or you can wait till the hand is done and look at all hands and the full board if it wasn't already displayed.
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Re: Turbo Texas Hold'Em, Harte3, 27. Jun 2003 12:34
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The problem is I have been strictly following the "Advisor" and that is where I have been getting beat to a pulp on hands advised to Raise, Reraise that I would have Folded when I got no support from the Flop even for AA, AK, etc. At B&M I have done fairly ok so far by playing Tight before the Flop and Agressive when I got a good Flop especially against those that play "Any two cards" to the bitter end.
Thanks for your comments!
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Re: Turbo Texas Hold'Em, stdioh, 27. Jun 2003 13:53
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The advisor can only tell you how to play as well as a computer and there is no computer that can beat a competent human player.
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Re: Turbo Texas Hold'Em, Yeoda, 27. Jun 2003 11:59
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Play a few thousand more hands and get the feel for things. The biggest benefit I've got is not playing as much borderline/medium hands in early position. I'm much tighter in early positon and much more agressive in later because of what i've learned. Also try the "challenge the advisor" feature. Playing 200 hands against the advisor will give you a better idea if your play is superior to the advisor or not. Sometimes I kill, sometimes I don't... but in either case I'm able to figure out what made me better/worse.

Only glitch I find somewhat annoying is if you raise UTG, typically you'll get most or all players to fold... I've only been able to do this once at a B&M.
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Re: Turbo Texas Hold'Em, PairTheBoard, 27. Jun 2003 13:34
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As I recall, you can totally demolish the computer players in that game by playing like a completely insane maniac. I think nearly all the players are programed to fold at certain levels of raises and reraises.unless they have the nuts. You can basically just steal them blind.

What's a lot of fun to do is program your own AI player and set him against the computer players. You can sit back and watch thousands of hands go by and see your player's chip stack rise.

You can also Prove the non associative, non well ordering Nature of Poker this way. With numbers, if A<B and B<C then A<C. That isn't always true with Poker. It is possible to program two players, one of which will get beat by the Computer Players and one of which will totally run over the Computer players. Yet if you do it right, the Loser will take all the money from the Winner heads up.
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