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 Best place to play professioally, Bill A., 26. Jun 2003 10:46 | ||
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| Hello everyone, Any opinions on where it is most profitable to play regular professional ring games? Foxwoods/Mohegan Sun in Conneticut, Vegas, or California? I am also very interested in playing in the major tournaments, but I am willing to travel. For those of you inclined to be concerned for my well being, I do intend to keep my day job, but I just want to play regularly. I must admit though, it would be a dream to be able to play poker full-time. Bill A | ||
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| Re: Best place to play professioally, Big_Slick, 26. Jun 2003 14:04 | ||
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| Hi Bill, Well, Vegas is clearly the place to be if you want to play semi-pro. Between all the ring games and tourneys, you'd have a lot of action to choose from. Los Angeles does have a lot of action but you'd need to consider the life-style change as well. I lived in LA for 3 years and hated it. Too many people, too much traffic and too much silicon (personal preference). The cost of living in CT is fairly high I believe but then again, so is LA. Vegas would probably give you more bang for your buck but that is just an educated guess. Don't forget about Atlantic City. There's enough poker played there to make that an option too. If you are seriously considering a relocation, I would highly recommend spending a few weeks at each location. Play some poker, talk to some people and scout out the area. You may find that Vegas offers the best games but you simply can't stand the heat. Maybe LA is nice but you can't stand the traffic. Moreover, I'm not sure what you do for a day job, but that needs to be a consideration as well. One city might be a much better choice just based on your current occupation. I'm sure other posters can give you some additional advice. Keep us updated on your decision! | ||
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| Re: Best place to play professioally, Bill A., 30. Jun 2003 05:03 | ||
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| Thanks Guys for all the great information. I appreciate the help. | ||
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| Re: Best place to play professioally, stdioh, 26. Jun 2003 14:11 | ||
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| There are lots of places with good games and every cardroom has its share of pros. I could see making a living playing in Vancouver as the game there is very soft indeed. Likewise there is plenty of great action in Brantford, Ontario and a number of players make their livings in that cardroom. First learn to play poker better than everybody else. Then find a home :) | ||
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| Re: Best place to play professioally, 4 POKER, 30. Jun 2003 03:48 | ||
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| Hey Bill, Deciding on where to play really depends on where you live at this very moment, if you're willing to re-locate and how serious you truly are about playing poker as a pro or semi-pro. If you live on the east coast you have two very good choices...Connecticut and Atlantic City. The card rooms that are opened there are filled with many, many games to chose from and at all limits, all the time. Now, if you are talking about the west coast, you have several options. You have Arizona, California and Las Vegas. But you have to consider some important factors here. California will offer you many, many more poker rooms and games to chose from than Las Vegas or Arizona could offer you but the cost of living in California is extremely expensive. Now...although Vegas is definitely the most affordable place to live in (compared to the former states mentioned), the competition and the caliber of players in Las Vegas would not make this the absolute best choice for you, (but that is just my opinion.) You see, when you're a top notch player (which is something you need to be to make it happen$$), you must make sure that the games you play in will always be games in which you are CLEARLY better than your opponents. So for someone like Roy Cooke (sorry for the plug,Roy), the adjustment to playing in Vegas may not have been a tough thing at all for him. But for the average player or the one who is really trying to make it big on the poker scene, trying to achieve this may be quite difficult if you chose to play here. Yes, there are good and not so good players all over the country but.... IMHO, Las Vegas has the worst (tougest) line-up of players that you would want to play against. To truly make it happen here you must be so experienced and truly skilled to even stand a chance. And all too often you hear stories of people who just want to go to Vegas so they can play with the "big boys" and think that it's just all fun and games. Well poker can be fun, but going into it with blinders on will only prove to be a sad and rude awakening for most. The glitz and glamour are great, but it wears thin and "off"( for that matter) real quick. Dreams are great but pipe dreams are not. So just be realistic about it all and I'm sure you'll make the best decision for yourself, Bill. Go into this with a level- head and if you're really interested and truly determined about it, than read lots and lots of good books and get the experience first and see if you've got what it takes (meaning skill)...THEN decide on which cardroom you want to conquer! Remember this again and never forget it..... You must be better than your opponents to be a winning player, period! There's nothing wrong with playing poker in all of these states, just keep in mind....when and if you do become a pro or semi-pro that when you're visiting a new cardroom, you are strictly just visiting a new place and are STILL able to beat the games. The others may perceive you as "the tourist", but you will know that this is just an oversight by them and the word "tourist "will only have reference to your actual place of residence and will not be an indicator of how well you can play poker....make sense? I'm sure when I go to Vegas there are still some of the regulars who look at me as "the tourist" who they're going to feed off of, but trust me, that's not the case. (except for this past week when I felt like I was the red-headed stepchild), but that's just one poor run that I will just have to swallow.....gulp! I just know what I'm up against here and I pick my spots very carefully as to not play in games with too many of the pros if I can help it or as long as I feel that I'm still one of the better players in the game. I think if you have the opportunity to travel all over the U.S (and Canada), you should. There are so many positives to all these card rooms and I'm truly grateful that I had the pleasure to playing in all of these places. (It's just another way that keeps me from getting bored with it all and it really adds to the excitement that is sometimes lost when you play poker for a living, day in and day out)! Just a side note, Bill....poker is fun when you're playing it for fun and recreational purposes but trust me, if and when you play this game for a living, it's not going to be as fun as it once was. You will be relying on it totally and it will be a job just like any other. Yes, it's very rewarding (in the monetary sense) but if you truly do enjoy the game you may want to consider just keeping it your hobby for now while still holding down your present job. I love poker, I really do, and the freedom it gives me is the 'Nuts" for sure, but it's not for everyone and it must be taken very seriously to make it work. Good luck to you in whatever you decide. But for now....just enjoy the game and the experience you're getting, and have fun with it all! 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Best place to play professioally, Bill A., 30. Jun 2003 05:08 | ||
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| Thanks 4 Poker, That was a great post and I will take your suggestions to heart. Bill A | ||
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| Re: Best place to play professioally, 4 POKER, 30. Jun 2003 05:17 | ||
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| on 30. Jun 2003 05:08 Bill A. wrote: > Thanks 4 Poker, > > That was a great post and I will take your suggestions to heart. > > Bill A My pleasure. It's sometimes good to hear the "darker" side as well, even though I try to be very objective from all angles. Glad I was of some help to you. Take care. | ||
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