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 Poker and proposition bets, Bond18, 23. Jun 2003 22:32 | ||
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| Reading through super system and amarillo slims new books have put some ideas in my head. Now a lot of the time when sitting at the poker table your siting with a bunch of guys who just in general, enjoy gambling. So it seems to me that these are the sort easy to beat with proposition bets. I have a number i'd like to explain on here and i was also wondering if anyone knows any others they'd like to share, or a website about proposition betting. Some of these seem very random, but with a lot of them people are SO certain they can win they practically give you their money. 1. Offer 100 to 1 that your opponent won't have the Q of spades and J of diamonds in his hand (136..8 to 1), or the two red jacks works as well. 2. Bet your opponent that he cannot eat 6 saltine crackers in a minute without liquid (i know its random but i swear EVERYBODY thinks they can do this, and i've never had anyone beat me.) A similar bet is drinking the gallon of milk, which i've found several people who think their capable of doing, and all of which have failed. If anybody else has others i wanna hear em! | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, Schuster, 24. Jun 2003 00:04 | ||
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| Challenge them to start with a full shuffled deck in their hand. They then flip cards off 1 by 1, and each time they flip a card off, they count up the deck. For example, the first card the flip off, they would say "Ace", the next card they would say "2", and keep on going. They stop when they say the card they flip off. I don't remember the exact odds, but you can either offer them a weighted sum if they make it through the whole deck, or give them a dollar for every card they flip off, and they give you a dollar for every card left. Needless to say, the odds are horrible, but people seem to think you're not screwing with them. The other one I like when someone is being a real hothead is a game that was introduced to me as texas draw poker. It's 5 card draw, but each player chooses which cards he starts with and which cards he draws, and the hands are played face up. Offer them to pick out their 5 cards, and they will 99% pick out a royal flush. Then you pick out a royal flush. Ask if they want to draw any, they will say no. You of course say no. Now it's the suckers turn to deal. You go and get four tens and any random card and set them face up on the table. They will likely go and get four aces. Now, you save a ten and toss the others into the muck. Draw out a straight flush, then give them the deck. Since your tens are in the muck, they cannot beat you. | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, MozMan, 24. Jun 2003 08:37 | ||
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| Oh, I LOVE both of these! What a blast. I will have to try them. -Moz "Truly, you have a dizzying intellect." | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, stdioh, 24. Jun 2003 09:24 | ||
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| That is a magnificent hustle. Where did you learn of this? | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, Schuster, 24. Jun 2003 10:42 | ||
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| A friend of mine enlightened me. He used it a lot in his boyscout days. Lee | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, stdioh, 24. Jun 2003 09:16 | ||
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| > 1. Offer 100 to 1 that your opponent won't have the Q of spades and J of > diamonds in his hand (136..8 to 1), or the two red jacks works as well. Yes, this is a good bet to make, but you need to know that you'll always get your money if you win and you need to play it with somebody very stupid. > 2. Bet your opponent that he cannot eat 6 saltine crackers in a minute without > liquid (i know its random but i swear EVERYBODY thinks they can do this, and Be careful. You want to phrase the bet very exactly or somebody like me will shake on it, spend 10 minutes spitting on the crackers, and eat them in 5 seconds. > i've never had anyone beat me.) A similar bet is drinking the gallon of milk, > which i've found several people who think their capable of doing, and all of > which have failed. Most humans have a stomache that can distend to contain no more than about 2 litres and processes only about 1 litre of fluid per hour. Milk is also slower to absorb in your stomach than plain water and if it is cold your stomach moves it through more slowly too. I used to make my share of bets in competitive eating and I have to warn you that those are good can force food out of their stomachs and into their guts. This is why you get these monsters who can eat 100 hot dogs in an hour and such. They are pushing the food into their intestines as they go. Thus you need to be sure that the person you are betting is a sucker. Anybody who will put up a large sum on money on a bet like this is usually smarter than you'd think and will humble you. I once ate a gallon of chocolate ice cream in one sitting (though I think I was allowed 3 hours so it was easy). > If anybody else has others i wanna hear em! Well, Slim talks about the eating 30 quals in 30 days as an impossible bet. | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, Andrew Wells, 24. Jun 2003 10:04 | ||
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| Deuce insurance in hold'em. Offer the player on your left 5:1 if he is dealt a deuce, and 10:1 for pocket deuces. If you get someone taking this proposition bet, you will be playing nothing but the most premium starting hands (thus folding nearly everything). Now that you have folded, he can show you that he started with a deuce when that happens. If you make the proposition for the size of one small bet, you would be able to beat both the blinds and the sucker enough that you would show a profit even if you folded every hand. | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, Risky Business, 24. Jun 2003 10:56 | ||
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| The saltine hustle is supposed to end with the person having to whistle. I've seen plenty of winners that can finish the big lump of cracker, but only one rid himself of enough of the crackers to whistle. on 24. Jun 2003 10:04 Andrew Wells wrote: > Deuce insurance in hold'em. Offer the player on your left 5:1 if he is dealt a deuce, > and 10:1 for pocket deuces. If you get someone taking this proposition bet, you will > be playing nothing but the most premium starting hands (thus folding nearly > everything). Now that you have folded, he can show you that he started with a deuce > when that happens. If you make the proposition for the size of one small bet, you > would be able to beat both the blinds and the sucker enough that you would show a > profit even if you folded every hand. | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, Bond18, 24. Jun 2003 12:05 | ||
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| Hmm i've never heard the part about the whistling, a good thing to add i figure, though i still have yet to see anybody down the crackers, or anybody smart enough to spit on them. As far as the milk goes, yea your right, some can do it, but most can't and for some reason think they can. | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, Risky Business, 24. Jun 2003 12:06 | ||
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| " Nobody can eat 50 eggs. " on 24. Jun 2003 12:05 Bond18 wrote: > Hmm i've never heard the part about the whistling, a good thing to add i figure, though i still > have yet to see anybody down the crackers, or anybody smart enough to spit on them. As far as > the milk goes, yea your right, some can do it, but most can't and for some reason think they > can. | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, SKinner, 24. Jun 2003 12:31 | ||
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| on 24. Jun 2003 12:06 Risky Business wrote: > " Nobody can eat 50 eggs. " Paul Newman can. | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, shorn, 24. Jun 2003 12:42 | ||
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| So could Rocky... | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, stdioh, 24. Jun 2003 13:10 | ||
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| Cool Hand Luke - great flick. | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, Andrew Wells, 24. Jun 2003 18:42 | ||
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| It has to be easier if they are scrambled instead of boiled. | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, stdioh, 25. Jun 2003 08:43 | ||
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| I think it would be easiest if they were raw. How many litres is 50 eggs? | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, stdioh, 24. Jun 2003 13:10 | ||
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| Does it have to be the standard North American whistle? If I took you up on it, I'd probably be whistling through my teeth, or failing that between my fingers or through my cupped hands. | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, stdioh, 24. Jun 2003 13:09 | ||
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| I like that concept. I could see duece insurance whereby he only gets paid for a duece if it stays in his hand until the showdown or until he folds everybody off the hand. I know a lot of fish who would think this was a great bet. | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, Andrew Wells, 24. Jun 2003 18:44 | ||
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| It's also a good way to get a player who is moaning about being dealt nothing but trash hands to put up or shut up. I've had more than a dozen people accept this proposition, and often they just show you each and every hand they play or fold. So that's getting paid to receive free information. Sweet! | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, Banning, 24. Jun 2003 19:25 | ||
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| bet that if you take 30 random people one of them will share the same birthday (i bet you 2-1 that at least 2 people in this room share the same birthday). You are a slight winner on this one. It is like 55% or something, I can't remember the math. So if you make it 2-1 then you have the best of it for sure. | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, stdioh, 25. Jun 2003 08:44 | ||
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| Nope. You're a bigger favourite than that - I think around 70%. I'll do the math and let you know. I think that it is a break even bet with about 21 people. | ||
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| Re: Poker and proposition bets, stdioh, 25. Jun 2003 08:50 | ||
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| ok. I ran the numbers, and unless I made a calculator mashing error I get that there is a 27.28% chance that no two of 30 people have the same birthday. | ||
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