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 3/6 Holdem, Omaha for Beginer, Heath, 20. Jun 2003 13:51 | ||
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| Is 3/6 Holdem to steep for a begining player? If I buy in $100 do you think I could hang playing only premium hands? Heath | ||
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| Re: 3/6 Holdem, Omaha for Beginer, mkpoker, 20. Jun 2003 14:06 | ||
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| Finally, a question I can answer with authority...cause I'm a beginner myself. No. It's not too steep, but only if you're comfortable with the stakes. If you're playing "scared" (and your question 'can I hang on...' suggests you are), it's too rich. You should always play to win--not to "hang on." If the stakes prevent you from doing that, move down. | ||
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| Re: 3/6 Holdem, Omaha for Beginer, TKarrde, 20. Jun 2003 14:14 | ||
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| We are talking B&M, right?! TKarrde "You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never to get involved in a land war in Asia. And only slightly less well known is this: never go in against a Sicilian (Mozman) when death is on the line!" | ||
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| Re: 3/6 Holdem, Omaha for Beginer, Big_Slick, 20. Jun 2003 14:08 | ||
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| You just never know. I had a day last week where I landed K-K 4 times and lost and or folded 3 of the 4 hands (all 4 times, I was up against A-A if you canbelieve it.) Premium starting cards are great but they do not guarantee success. The best advice I can give you for not going broke it to fold when you think there is even a chance you are beat. Be weary of flops that are suited or connected, especially with multiple callers. Also, be aware of your position so you don't get sucked into 2 betting weak hands like 6-6 or K-9. Good luck! | ||
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| Re: 3/6 Holdem, Omaha for Beginer, Heath, 20. Jun 2003 14:33 | ||
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| Man, Thanks a lot guys for the advice. Its nice to be getting into the poker scene and have people give advice freely. H | ||
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| Re: 3/6 Holdem, Omaha for Beginer, Scrubbie, 20. Jun 2003 14:37 | ||
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| Mpoker made a good point. A big mistake I see people make is to move up to a larger stake game, and then play timid. If you fear your bankroll, you will play weak-tight, which is the kiss of death in a 3/6 game. YOu can, however, play Good Solid Poker by playing strong hands in late position and muck weak hands in early/middle. Stay away from weak kickers and almost never chase with 3 or less players. Limp/check your draws and bet the crap out of your top pairs. Read the posts about pot odds (in this forum) and memorize them. It will help you in the marginal situations. Keep in mind, you "will" throw away a lot of winners!!!! DO NOT join the fish in the farm, and start playing Q-6s in middle position. Scrubbie "Poker is like law ... You never want it to go to trial" | ||
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| Re: 3/6 Holdem, Omaha for Beginer, shorn, 20. Jun 2003 15:31 | ||
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| Heath- I play 3/6 online pretty often and I will play the heavy and disagree with my mates on this one. You might be able to build up your bankroll playing with $100 buy-in, but I wouldn't recommend it. It is not enough $$ to handle a bad session even if you are playing the best cards. Think of it this way. If you start with AA and every round is capped through the river and you lose, you potentially would only have $28 left total. This is extreme, but just trying to make a point. I would start at 1/2 with $100 and move up once you doubel it to 2/4, double and so on. Just my 2 cents. Steve | ||
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| Re: 3/6 Holdem, Omaha for Beginer, MozMan, 20. Jun 2003 15:42 | ||
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| I play a lot of 3-6 holdem at the B&M, and always buy in for $100, with $200 more in my pocket. In all this time, I only had to re-buy the 3rd c-note once. It really is nice to have that padding. It keeps me from playing scared. nowadays, I seldom dig out even the 2nd one. The fact that I barely notice if my chips get down around $20 or $30 is the best evidence that I'm not playing scared. Usually, I will do a quick stack count, find I'm ahead, and think, 'huh, wasn't I almost to the felt about an hour ago?' I don't hink I would really be able to do that if I didn't have the other 2 in my pocket. Incidentally, I play 4-8 the same, but double my numbers for 6-12. -Moz "Apples, fool! Because vests have no sleeves!" | ||
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| Re: 3/6 Holdem, Omaha for Beginer, Scrubbie, 20. Jun 2003 15:49 | ||
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| shorn, Good catch. I missed that in my first post! I have always felt you should be prepared to re-buy 3 times the amount you originally came into the game with. In a 3/6 B&M game, you will usually come into the game with $100. (Or to say for a 3/6 game, I would use this amount as a reference) That said ... If your original question ... "Is $100 enough to buy-in" ... didn't plan for the possibility of getting a bad run, and rebuying, then ... .... forgedaboutit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Scrubbie "Thank you, please drive through" | ||
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| Re: 3/6 Holdem, Omaha for Beginer, 4 POKER, 20. Jun 2003 16:26 | ||
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| Heath, I'm not sure what you meant by "If I buy in for a $100 do you think I could hang on in a $3-6 game?" It depends on how big your bankroll truly is. Now, if you're talking about investing your whole bankroll (of $100), than the $3-6 limit will be too high. You can lose that 100 bucks in one session real quick, even if you were playing really premium hands. Your bankroll must be able to withstand the losses and when just starting out, you need to build it up slowly and correctly. Start at a lower limit. Get experience first. And then when your bankroll doubles (or even more than that)...move up. If my poker bankroll was small/limited, I would never take the whole thing just to try and build it up in one sessions worth of poker where the limit was so high that if I were to lose a couple of hands it would be gone. You'd pretty much be "taking a shot" with that $100, and even a pro shouldn't put that kind of pressure on himself....it wouldn't be fair OR wise. I agree with Shorn, (and by the way, Shorn.....I can't believe you think that your mates would disagree with you here); what you said is not only correct, it's crucial. That's my 3 cents. (2 from shorn and 1 from me)!!!!!!! 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: 3/6 Holdem, Omaha for Beginer, mkpoker, 20. Jun 2003 17:21 | ||
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| Of course, 4Pok and Shorn are right. I assumed Heath meant an initial session buy-in. For that, yes, $100 is perfectly adequate. But you need to be prepared to lose that and more if the cards run bad. | ||
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| Re: 3/6 Holdem, Omaha for Beginer, 4 POKER, 20. Jun 2003 18:16 | ||
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| on 20. Jun 2003 17:21 mkpoker wrote: > Of course, 4Pok and Shorn are right. I assumed Heath meant an initial session buy-in. > For that, yes, $100 is perfectly adequate. But you need to be prepared to lose that and > more if the cards run bad. mkpoker, You are correct also. If he was just referring to just his initial buy-in, than $100 would be ok. The only reason why he might want to sit in with more than that would be, if he did happen to get a couple of really good hands and perhaps he will not have enough chips in front of him to play his hand correctly all the way through. Say he buys in for 100 bucks and after about 10 minutes or so, he only has $50 of that left. If he then happens to pick up a monster like, AA, then he may not have the opportunity to put in the proper amount of bets and raises with it, that's all. And for that reason alone I would want to make sure that I had enough money in front of me before the next hand was dealt out. You never know when you're going to get dealt a monster hand and if you were to be short stacked at that time, it would really be a shame. That old expression, "All in always wins", is bogus because when you DO flop a monster, you most definitely want to have enough in front of you. Not to mention that you need to have a good chip stack so you can be able to protect your hand as well. Though a 100 bucks might be ok, I would still rather buy in for around $200 to start out. I also hate to have a pewny amount of chips at the table.....but that's just me!! 4 POKER | ||
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