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 Not your average heads up match, Wren, 20. Jun 2003 12:51 | ||
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| I just played a sit n go in which it got down to myself and another guy heads up. My opponent was the prototypical "heads up calling station". The type of player who has virtually NO chance of beating another player who's any shade of solid in a heads up situation, short from getting an unbelievably wonderful run of cards. This is how he played: he NEVER raised preflop. NEVER. He was about right in terms of looseness for heads up play, but I suspect he was simply playing the way he played in a full-handed game (ie WAY too loose). He would bet the flop if he hit top pair or better, but he never bet more than the minimum. He'd check/call a substantial bet with any pair or any 4-card draw. He'd check/call a minimum bet on the flop with VERY marginal holdings such as 3-straights and one overcard to the board. And that's pretty much it. When we first got down to two, he had 7000 to my 3000 (he'd had an unbelievably good string of luck, making unlikely straights, flushes and trips every 3 or 4 hands. And yup, some of these were against me, dammit.). Despite his chip advantage and blinds of 100-200, I *knew* I would win this tournament. I followed the "how to play a loose-passive player" guidelines to a T - I limped preflop with limping hands, raised with raising hands, and only folded the 15% or so of doggiest pieces o' junk. I bet for value and didn't try to bluff him out. And I slowly but surely ran him over. Just an example of how heads up play isn't always about overaggression and outplaying one's opponent. If I played my normal heads up game against this guy, I would have had a much harder and more frustrating time of it. It's too bad guys like this are so few and far between :O) | ||
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| Re: Not your average heads up match, Kid, 20. Jun 2003 13:03 | ||
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| Sounds like my kind of heads up match. Small pots and a predictable opponent. I totally agreed with your early post on heads up play. It's much more to do with reading players and adjusting to their styles than it is reading a book and learning how to play particular hands. KID | ||
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| Re: Not your average heads up match, Wren, 20. Jun 2003 13:24 | ||
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| Exactly. This guy was an extreme case, but many other players out there are various shades of calling station. And yup - they're the easiest to clean out of all the types. Easy, easy pickings :O) | ||
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| Re: Not your average heads up match, beigs, 20. Jun 2003 13:14 | ||
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| That sounds like me playing heads up. What? Raise? nah... | ||
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| Re: Not your average heads up match, Wren, 20. Jun 2003 13:25 | ||
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| Heheh. Well that's perhaps something you should work on ;) | ||
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| Re: Not your average heads up match, TKarrde, 20. Jun 2003 13:22 | ||
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| Very interesting. Never played anyone like that. Did you ever raise him preflop? How did he normally respond? Did he ever raise back or just call/fold? Did you get more aggressive once you hit T6000 or higher? Nice playing Wren! TKarrde "You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never to get involved in a land war in Asia. And only slightly less well known is this: never go in against a Sicilian (Mozman) when death is on the line!" | ||
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| Re: Not your average heads up match, Wren, 20. Jun 2003 13:33 | ||
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| Due to the type of player he was, I played very straightforward. If I had good cards, I raised. If I had very marginal cards, I called. If I had total crap, I folded. I would raise hands like KTo in the BB where I might not against a more solid opponent, 'cause I knew that (a) he'd happily put in 2 more big blinds with a crappier hand like 79o, and (b) I would play the flop better than he would. He did fold occasionally preflop (presumably with total trash such as 26o). However, if he decided to play preflop, it would take a REALLY big raise to knock him out. I don't think he ever limp/folded to one of my raises preflop, but then again I wasn't doing anything stupid like raising 4-5x the size of the pot. Against a player like that, doing this sort of move, IMO, is pointless. Nope, he never raised back. As I already mentioned, he didn't raise ONCE preflop, and I think he only raised once or twice on the flop & onward, and they were all minimum raises. And nope - I just played the same game when I obtained the chip lead. His style wasn't adjusting, so mine didn't need to either. on 20. Jun 2003 13:22 TKarrde wrote: > Very interesting. Never played anyone like that. > > Did you ever raise him preflop? How did he normally respond? Did he ever raise > back or just call/fold? > > Did you get more aggressive once you hit T6000 or higher? > > Nice playing Wren! > > TKarrde > > "You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never > to get involved in a land war in Asia. And only slightly less well known is this: > never go in against a Sicilian (Mozman) when death is on the line!" | ||
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| Re: Not your average heads up match, Schuster, 21. Jun 2003 21:29 | ||
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| Good for you on spotting your opponents weakness and playing to it. This reminds me of a passage in tourney poker for advanced players where sklansky talks about playing heads up against a guy who was playing was too tight in a 5 card draw final. He made it a point to say that he wouldn't get involved in a big pot even with 4 of a kind, just because the guy played in such a way that he really had no chance of winning. Sklansky just kept stealing the antes. A good player can make a good play against the average opponent, the great player taylors play to his/her opponents. Nice job. | ||
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