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 The Zen of the Internet, Easy E, 20. Jun 2003 12:29 | ||
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| "We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true. " - Robert Wilensky | ||
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| Re: The Zen of the Internet, Player X, 21. Jun 2003 13:49 | ||
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| it takes a million years. -X Writer www.pokerev.com | ||
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| Re: The Zen of the Internet, Mark, 21. Jun 2003 20:40 | ||
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| Since many people here are interested in math, i will show how that myth is mathematically untrue. Instead of writing all of Shakespear's works, they only have to write 10 lines. Now, each line would have the avg. of 40 characters. So the monkeys only have to come up with 400 characters. But, these characters have to be in a certain order. If we ignore all of the periods, commas, spaces, etc, and only focus on letters, they have 26 buttons on the type writter to choose from (we'll also ignore caps) So the possibility of randomly comming up with 10 lines of Shakespear is about 1 in 26exponent400, which is roughly 1 in 10exp536. instead of using 1million years, we will use the history of the universe, as we believe it to be, about 15 billion years. And the monkeys type approx 10 lines per second. 15 billion years = less than 10exp18 seconds So a million monkeys would only get 10exp24 trys at typing 10 lines of Shakespear. In fact, the monkeys only bring down the possibility from 1 in 10exp536 to 1 in 10 exp511. Consider that mathematicians believe anything that has a probability of less than 1 in 10exp50 is considered an impossibililty to occur during the existance of our universe. So obviously, the monkeys will not come anywhere close to coming up with Shakespear mark | ||
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| Re: The Zen destroyer, Easy E, 23. Jun 2003 08:22 | ||
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| My sense of oneness has been RUINED by your overanalyzing! Begone! ;) | ||
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| Re: The Zen of the Internet, shorn, 23. Jun 2003 08:25 | ||
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| You guys have WAY too much time on oyur hands. Oh, and BTW, I don't EVER want to see you at my table Mark. :) | ||
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| Re: The Zen of the Internet, chasepoker, 23. Jun 2003 08:27 | ||
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| >>>1 in 10exp50 So whats that in English ? about 25-1 ? Chasepoker | ||
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| Re: The Zen of the Internet, stdioh, 23. Jun 2003 09:32 | ||
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| Indeed. You need an infinite amount of monkeys, but then you get the benefit of getting the complete works of shakespeare thumped out in a couple of days. With large finite numbers of monkeys you'd be lucky to get Stephen King's "The Tommyknockers" in dutch (I didn't come up with this - Three Dead Trolls in a baggie did). What would be more interesting is figuring out the probability that William Shakespeare would randomly flail his arms around and find himself swinging from the trees like a monkey (and I'm stealing that from John A. Paulos) | ||
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