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 My Mini UPF Tourney Report, Wren, 19. Jun 2003 07:44 | ||
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| Last night, all I really did was bitch, so I thought I'd post something a little more meaningful and intelligent today :O) (though I will be griping about the tournament structure throughout this post, so bear with me) This'll probably be pretty long and fairly boring, so feel free to skim and/or skip entirely :O) I have to say I felt VERY VERY pressed to get good cards right from the get-go. Saw a couple flops, didn't hit, had to fold. I found that bluffing really couldn't be used effectively at my table as (a) the table was very loose and (b) with such a small starting stack relative to the blinds, one had to be VERY careful with picking one's spots, and the number of hands dealt per round afforded VERY few good situations in which to bluff. So my stack dwindled to about 120. I picked up KK in mid pos, reraised an early, aggressive raiser, one of the looser players cold-called 3 and we all took the flop. AT3 or something. Ick. First player checks to me, I bet and they both fold. Whew. Back to just under 150. And then the disconnection. I was sitting here thinking that the game was going on without me, and that I'd come back and find myself with a stack of ~100. Then I realized that most everyone else was also disconnected. Spoke with stdio on the phone (he was playing at his work) and we were both feeling quite pissy about this, especially after he had so much trouble firing up the software in the first place. Anyhoo...15 minutes later. Back in business. Sorta. I've blinded down to about 130 and am not happy about this. I see a couple more flops, miss, fold. Blind down s'more. Stack down to 60 now and I'm annoyed. I keep thinking how in a tournament with a "good" structure, I'd still have about 80% of my chips at this point, and here I'm sitting here with less than half. Bingolicious. Blinds now 5-10. I Pick up AK, 3-bet an aggressive raise, hit an A, get all-in and more than double up. Good. Next hand, 33 in SB. There's a raise and 2 cold-calls. I'm pretty sure the BB will call too. What the hell. I throw in 15 more chips. Flop 358 w/ heart draw. I check, there's a bet and a raise, I 3-bet, and they both fold. That's fine - I'm not slowplaying bottom set on a fairly coordinated board. Up to over 300 chips. Ok, got some momentum going. But then blinds increase to 10-20, so I'm still looking pretty icky. Pick up QQ, 3-bet an early raise, again I get a cold-call and the original raiser calls. Flop AKX. Greeaaat. I check/fold to a bet & call. A hand or two later, a steal attempt doesn't work out. Back down to 200 chips. Virtually NO cards for 2 rounds (I think I see one flop). Down to 100 chips. Now blinds 15-30 and I'm looking dismal. Pick up A9o on the button. After an early, loose player limps, I decide now's the time and isolate raise. BB and limper come in. Flop 7TJ. Not the bestest flop in the world. Bet, call, I only have 40 chips left so I put myself all-in w/ my gutshot and overcard. Turn a Q. Bet, call. River an A. Check, check. I'm good. No chit. Back up to 300 chips. But that's still nothing to speak of with huge blinds of 15-30 eating away. Next hand: A8o on cutoff. Folded to me, I steal-raise, SB comes in. Flop something like KJ7. Ok - I'm not throwing anymore chips in there. We check it down and his unimproved AT wins. Couple hands later: JJ. I 3-bet a raise, flop comes KTX, 2 diamonds. Check, I bet, he checkraises. ihh. I should probably fold here, but I call as he could be possibly doing this with 2 diamonds, or a T. He might check the turn if he's drawing and misses, plus if I pick up a Q or J on the turn, I can continue. Turn another T - not good. He bets, I fold. Back down to 100 chips. I'm just feeling sick of the whole thing by now. I feel like I haven't been playing poker but some strange "mini-poker" hybrid that snatches away the ability to use a variety of strategic tools and ups the luck factor by about 200%. On my next BB, I get KTd and call an UTG raise from a desperately short player. Flop misses me (and probably him), but I'm down to 40 chips and really don't care to dick around with them on future hands. Bet, he raises, I call, and I'm nusted out when his A high beats my K high. That's all she wrote. Concluding thoughts: (a) (You're probably all getting sick of hearing me say this but) the tournament was WAAAY too short and crapshooty. 3/4 of the competition was already eliminated after 1.5 hours of play and the entire tournament was over in less than 2.5 hours. A limit tournament with 100-150 entrants should last at least 3.5-4 hours. (b) I made a couple mistakes, but I, by no means, played an overtly poor game. I just wish I had more opportunity to play good poker there. (c) All this being said, it was fun to get together with fellow UPFers, cheer each other on, etc. Thanks to Mike Caro for donating the extra prizes, and participating with us. However, I think it's safe to say that any future UPF tournaments will NOT be played on Planet's software, due to all the aforementioned issues. It's really too bad that Planet has so many problems, as it was the first internet poker room available, and Mike and Roy are highly esteemed poker players/writers and really SHOULD be endorsing a top quality product. That's my story and I'm sticking to it :O) | ||
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| Re: My Mini UPF Tourney Report, TKarrde, 19. Jun 2003 08:25 | ||
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| Nice read. I didn't get to watch until about 1.5 hours into the thing. Looked like about 5 or 6 rather full tables at that point. How many people started the tourney? All I can say is... I'm glad I didn't get my deposit in. But I did enjoy watching and annoying the crap out of everyone. At least I wasn't hitting "yh" every 5 seconds. I had to turn the sounds off quickly! TKarrde | ||
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| Re: My Mini UPF Tourney Report, Wren, 19. Jun 2003 08:35 | ||
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| Well, don't forget that people were disconnected for about 15 minutes. So it would have been more like 1.25 hours into the tournament when you started watching. 134 people started the tournament. So about 45-50 people would have been left after an hour and a half. More like 1/3 than 1/4, but still way too fast. Oh my God, those sounds. They were amusing for about, oh, 4 minutes. And then that one guy just kept doing strings of loo yh lol lol loo yh yh yh yh and it was ferking driving me nuts! on 19. Jun 2003 08:25 TKarrde wrote: > Nice read. > > I didn't get to watch until about 1.5 hours into the thing. Looked like about 5 or > 6 rather full tables at that point. How many people started the tourney? > > All I can say is... I'm glad I didn't get my deposit in. But I did enjoy watching > and annoying the crap out of everyone. At least I wasn't hitting "yh" every 5 > seconds. I had to turn the sounds off quickly! > > > TKarrde > | ||
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| Re: My Mini UPF Tourney Report, Andrew Wells, 19. Jun 2003 11:04 | ||
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| Turn off the sound master. I never play with the noise. | ||
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| Re: My Mini UPF Tourney Report, Andrew Wells, 19. Jun 2003 10:58 | ||
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| You probably don't want to hear this, but you were only one play away from contending. We were at 30-60 limit when you three bet my UTG raise with 270 and that JJ hand. I was playing AK and since your isolation worked, decided there was no point in capping out of position. I knew you were aggressive enough to bet a hand like QQ or JJ with an overcard king, so when the flop came KTX with two diamonds I checkraised. All you had to do was make it three bets again and I would have mucked. I would have to respect AA TT AK or KK from you at that point. I would have had about 230 remaining, and wouldn't want to go two more big bets just to see if I could split the pot. Instead you called the raise on the flop and an offsuit ten paired the board on the turn. Now I'm thinking that you don't have pocket pair, but you're too solid a player to have three bet an UTG raise from early position with a hand like ATs. So I put you on the nut diamond draw, and bet the turn into your remaining 120. When you mucked at this point, I suspected you actually had QQ or JJ. If you had made the extra move on the flop, you would be looking at a 465 stack. Now you missed one hand you played after this, I think it was Th8h from the blind where you trippled up with the flush on the river. If I remember right, you got all-in on the turn here. You could have had a 700 stack, the button, and the largest table stack at this point. That was the critical hand for both of us. I don't know if you had already decided to get it over with by then, but I suspect you would have kept trying if you had just made that extra move on the flop. I went on to play just four more hands to get bumped out 12th. with an all-in raise from my big blind at 100-200 with AT against an early position limper with 86. So you were closer than it seemed. | ||
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| Re: My Mini UPF Tourney Report, Wren, 19. Jun 2003 11:22 | ||
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| Uh....whoa. I don't remember tripling up with a flush! Are you sure this was me, or perhaps someone else at the table? Or am I already going senile? (at such a young age...pity) Do you know any more details about the hand? (eg the board cards, the action, etc.) The JJ hand...as I mentioned to TKarrde in the other post, I didn't know it was you I was playing against. (No fair - you knew it was me ;) If I did, I would have been more likely to make a move there and try to run you off your hand. As it was, though, I had you on either AK or KQ (latter less likely), and didn't think that this "apparently solid, but not well known" player would muck a hand like this if I continued to fire. I'm willing to admit that I didn't adjust as well as I could have to the structure, but truth be told I just wasn't in the best frame of mind at the time. I was feeling emotional, I wasn't completely focused and I didn't know how to work planet's st0000pid software in order to see the number of tables/players left. As a result, no, I wasn't fully aware of how close we were, how many UPF players were left, etc. But I'll tell you one thing - I wasn't playing for the forking golfballs ;) | ||
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| Re: My Mini UPF Tourney Report, Andrew Wells, 19. Jun 2003 11:35 | ||
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| I know you did come back from that 120 to about 335 before you went out with the KTs hand. I think it was your immediate big or small blind hand after the JJ. I just "knew" I would end up with golf balls before the tourney, because I don't play that game. Fortunately I spent $20 on a decent shirt instead. | ||
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| Re: My Mini UPF Tourney Report, Wren, 19. Jun 2003 11:42 | ||
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| Nope. I didn't recover from the JJ hand. I remember being a little pissed at myself because I was lucky enough to triple up with the A9, then I pissed it all away and busted one round later. | ||
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| Re: My Mini UPF Tourney Report, Andrew Wells, 19. Jun 2003 12:39 | ||
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| Okay, maybe it was someone else. I was watching your play closely since you were on my immediate left, and could have sworn you went all-in once before the KTs hand. I remember all the hands I played, but some of the other player's hands are starting to get vague today. I could be mistaken. Nobody here got soft-played when I was in the pot. | ||
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