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 Planet Poker cruft, stdioh, 17. Jun 2003 22:03 | ||
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| So I just went through a very painful and arduous process at Planet Poker in terms of getting money in and getting registered for the tournament. I'll play, but only because I was so very pro-tournament the whole way. I have a long list of gripes. 1) Mike Caro - how could you pimp your name out to such an inferior product? This has to be the most poorly designed site I have ever seen for poker. This popping up of browser windows is ludicrous. I'm constantly entering my account number and password. There are dead links. Ugh - horrid! 2) Structure - aside from griping about it being a limit tournament, which has been done to death, the structure is a total bingo match. 15 minute rouds with limits starting at 3-6 and only 150 chips?!?!? That is not a poker tournament. Most of the competition will be decided when we find out the original seating plan in terms of who is furthest from the blinds.We're starting with a stack of 25 big bets at the bottom limit. After 15 minutes, we'll have much less than that. The cash game equivalent would be sitting down at a 5-10 with $250 and moving to 10-20 in 15 minutes (which should be about 1 orbit) and up and up from there. Horrible! The winner can have bragging rights to be the luckiest player on UPF, but the chance of it being the best player is 1/the number of entrants. 3) I haven't been able to get Wren registered at all yet. I can't deposit to her account with the credit card that I used to deposit to my account so I had to deposit more money to my account and send an email for them to transfer the funds. The catch 22 here is if they do it, it just displays horrible security and if theyt don't she's not in. All in all, bad bad bad. It looks like this site was built in 1997 and hasn't been worked on since. 4) On the bright side, it looks like it'll be a UPF only tournament as there are currently only 15 people signed up including yours truely. 5) And lastly, I'm sorry to be such a downer here - yes, it is nice to have the additional prizes there and I don't mean to be micturating upon anybody's cheerios, but puh-leeeeese. Next time we do this it has got to be on a site not quite so dinosauric. I'm literally aghast that such a site exists in its present state of cruft and shocked that the whole thing has not gone belly-up as a business fiasco. Anyhow, I'll see those of you who are playing there tomorrow. $20 isn't a huge sum to spend on a bingo ticket, so I'll try to make this my last big nose-thumbing and approach things with a more positive attitude from here on out. Good luck all - skill will get you nowhere. :( | ||
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| Re: Planet Poker cruft, flintsword, 17. Jun 2003 22:20 | ||
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| We all know that Planet Poker was the first and it was the best. The intellectual property attached to Planet Poker is first rate but the site is, alas, not up to modern expectations. I am on safe ground saying that Mike Caro "must" know this: he is not blind and he has seen the other sites. There must be real reasons Mike Caro is linked with Planet Poker as it is, ... a long term contract, a significant retainer, or other valid reason to continue. I am sure he has his reasons. It remains, ... his personal decision and it is not my place to question him. The owners of Planet Poker do NOT have defendable ground, since modernizing the site is, after all, a management decision that has not been made. It is also a required activity for a progressive online site. I will be charitable and assume that the modernization is in the works, ... but we can all remember the casinos that did not change with the times in Vegas ... I wish Planet Poker the best, ... and await it's entry into the 21st century. flintsword | ||
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| Re: Planet Poker cruft, stdioh, 17. Jun 2003 22:26 | ||
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| They really don't have an excuse for updating it. I could do a bang up job with a team of a dozen recent graduates in 2 months for a song - it isn't like there aren't a huge number of talented unemployed java developers out there looking for work. And for that matter, my buddy's commercial web development company could do it better and faster (though I doubt cheaper). This is no more than a $200,000 (Canadian) job so it's not like any sizeable company couldn't cough up the funds and do it - especially somebody who has been around as long as planet. And as for Mike, fair enough. I suppose that when he signed on with Planet they were some shade of cutting edge and I would imaging that he's got a binding contract with them. | ||
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| Re: Planet Poker cruft, Paul Stine, 18. Jun 2003 05:32 | ||
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| No, no, not java .... anything but java .... Paul Stine College Station, TX on 17. Jun 2003 22:26 stdioh wrote: > They really don't have an excuse for updating it. I could do a bang up job with a team of > a dozen recent graduates in 2 months for a song - it isn't like there aren't a huge number > of talented unemployed java developers out there looking for work. And for that matter, my > buddy's commercial web development company could do it better and faster (though I doubt > cheaper). This is no more than a $200,000 (Canadian) job so it's not like any sizeable > company couldn't cough up the funds and do it - especially somebody who has been around as > long as planet. > > And as for Mike, fair enough. I suppose that when he signed on with Planet they were some > shade of cutting edge and I would imaging that he's got a binding contract with them. | ||
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| Re: Planet Poker cruft, geirel, 18. Jun 2003 06:04 | ||
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| yes java sux for onlinepoker, too much capsity used so many will not be able to play. | ||
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| Re: Planet Poker cruft, stdioh, 18. Jun 2003 08:17 | ||
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| Depends on how you do it. If it is done right, java sites can work really well. Unfortunately, for those companies that try to do java sites, they usually hire a lot of people who don't know their asses from holes in the ground. When I worked for a dotcom about 3-4 years ago I was the senior developer doing java whathaveyou. All of the other developers had just graduated from no-name schools in India or schools like the "People's Telephone Company University" in China. I kid you not. We had one woman there with a degree from Saddam Hussein University in Baghdad - and I am dead serious. To make a long story short, there was nothing I could do, short of writing all the code myself, to prevent them from making things wickedly bad. Needless to say, the company died shortly after I flet, seeing the end of the dotcoms and not wanting to become a dotcom refugee myself. Anyhow, this has gotten 'not quite poker' but the point is that you could make a good online poker site in java so long as competent programmers were writing the server side code and you had enough hardware backing you up. If I had my druthers, I would do it all in TCL/TK, but try to find developers familiar with that. | ||
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| Re: Planet Poker cruft, plizak, 18. Jun 2003 16:39 | ||
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| I'd like to see it done in matlab :P | ||
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| Re: Planet Poker cruft, stdioh, 19. Jun 2003 09:24 | ||
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| That would be impressive. Actually, I got fairly decent at matlab programming, but I'm a bit out of practice. I'd imagine your CS370 TAing has got you all to familiar with it. BTW, good to see you on here. | ||
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| Re: Planet Poker cruft, Tim C, 18. Jun 2003 09:22 | ||
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| After reading stdioh's post I'm hesitant to sign up for the UPF to. Doesn't sound like its worth the time, to. rules suck and if the sites that bad who needs it. I guess pokerstars has spoiled me. I guess I will wait till they upgrade the site. Is it realy that bad? | ||
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| Re: Planet Poker cruft, MozMan, 18. Jun 2003 09:34 | ||
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| To be honest, I have expereinced no difficulty. I used Neteller to deposit funds for the tourney. From a user-experience perspective, the pop-up browsers for account services and tourney sign-up are a bit irritating, and the software itself is cheesy... but I haven't had any major problems. -Moz "Great. I've got a trig midterm tomorrow, and I'm being chased by Guido, The Killer Pimp." | ||
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| Re: Planet Poker cruft, timmer, 18. Jun 2003 09:35 | ||
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| I was told by someone who matters that Planet is tweeking a new system as we speak. er ... or ah ... type. | ||
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| Re: Planet Poker cruft, Risky Business, 18. Jun 2003 10:57 | ||
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| Then he's already eliminated you from top prize contention. Nice play stdioh!! on 18. Jun 2003 09:22 Tim C wrote: > After reading stdioh's post I'm hesitant to sign up for the UPF to. Doesn't sound > like its worth the time, to. rules suck and if the sites that bad who needs it. I > guess pokerstars has spoiled me. I guess I will wait till they upgrade the site. Is > it realy that bad? | ||
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