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 AA Busted Casino Promotion, mkpoker, 13. Jun 2003 21:34 | ||
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| A small casino in LA is offering an interesting promotion in the daytime hours to attract players: If you hold pocket aces and lose the hand, they give you $100. It's the same offer at all limits. If you're holding pocket aces, it's obvious how this promotion should affect your play--don't fold, even if you know you're beat (as long as you're putting less than $100 into the pot). But the most interesting question is how it should affect your play if you don't have pocket aces but suspect your opponent does--for example, if you're holding KK against a very tight player, and he repeatedly reraises your preflop raises. My guess is that if you think you've got him beat (if, for example, the flop comes K92), you should bet at all opportunities, knowing your opponent is "forced" to call. But really, that's what you'd do under normal circumstances (without the casino promotion).. Any thoughts about how this wacky promotion should affect your play? | ||
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| Re: AA Busted Casino Promotion, SendMoney, 13. Jun 2003 21:47 | ||
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| I've heard this promotion before, except in the past the deal was "Ace Cracked Gets a Rack" 100 chips at whatever denomination you're playing - I think they have this deal at Lucky Chances Casino near San Francisco during certain low volume times of day. One idea is to try to get your aces beaten for the minimum possible number of chips, basically play them exactly how you wouldn't play them under normal conditions. Say if you have AA and you limp in, check/call all betting rounds you're giving any random hand a chance to two pair on you, or a free shot at gutshots or flush cards. Say if you're playing $3/$6 you'd only be risking about 15-21 dollars to have a decent shot at $100, which is a bit larger than the average pot most of the time. If you have an undeniably strong hand like an A 9 9 flop there is no real point to give free cards since you won't lose, play it the way you normally would. | ||
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| Re: AA Busted Casino Promotion, stdioh, 16. Jun 2003 10:13 | ||
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| Wow. That is a really good deal. What does this mean? Well, lets assume that you are playing in 5-10 and that you get in 35 hands per hour. That is AA every 6.5 hours. Now you want your aces to get cracked OR have lots of people pay you off, which means that it becomes a bad idea to ever raise your aces preflop...unless you are in the blinds and want to get paid off more. ok, so lets say that you average 5 opponents with your aces. Until the pot has a reasonable chance of containing more than $100 you really don't care to win, so you want to call along and get as many people in as possible. When you have enogh money in, you can't have a very reasonable expectation of winning, so you sit and if your aces win then you win the pot and if they don't then you get your $100. What does this mean? Well, you're going to win at least 60% of the time with your aces anyway, but now when you win with them you're winning bigger pots since you didn't play them hard - unless everybody is very passive - in which case you might want to bet them anyway if you're up against a bunch of calling stations. So they get cracked once every 14 hours or so. That's $100 bonus in 14 hours which translates to $7 per hour on top of whatever you are making in the game. So in 5-10, that means that you can beat any game you play in by being very tight. In fact, if you only play AA and KK fold literally everything else including always folding your blinds, and when you play your aces you always see a flop (unless everything is folded to you - and nobody will avoid a steal against you ever, so that won't happen in your blinds) then after the bonus for cracked aces, you're paying $267.50 in blinds every 14 hour session. Your AA should win you about $200 in that time, so lets say that you are now losing only $100 in that session. Now your KK should happen about 2.2 times and should win you about another $150 (even with your rockish table image) so you should be making about $50 per hour. Now my math here uses a lot of approximation, but I would say that with this promotion it would be possible to be the textbook definition of a rock and still marginally beat the game, playing only AA and KK and never playing anything else at all. | ||
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