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Small tourny tactics, chasepoker, 12. Jun 2003 19:50
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I play a lot of Paradise 10 people tourny's where the payout is 50% 30% 20% and would like some opinions on the best way to play to maximise winnings.

For example situation i was in tonight NL tourny blinds 100/200 3 people left chip leader on 7000 me on 1800 and 3rd on 1200.

At this stage i always try and go for the win ( 50%) as the way i see it i have 20% at least ( 3rd) and so i am playing for either another 10% ( the 2nd place of 30%), which i might have been able to sneak into with the chip leader raising every hand, or another 30% for finishing 1st.

I have read and understand the Slanksy tournament ideas on winning vs moving up the money but would just like to know other peoples opinions and how they play in this situation.

I would like to say that in this particular tourny i felt as though as was at least as good if not better than the other players and as it happened i went all in preflop with A9 and lost a 3500 pot to a K8.

Just curious to everyones thoughts as i do play a lot of these small tournys and allthough make a profit would love it to be higher !

Cheers
Chase
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Re: Small tourny tactics, Andrew Wells, 12. Jun 2003 20:11
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I agree with you that another 10% as opposed to 30% is not a good reason to wait for it to get heads-up. I would also play fast and aggressive once that third place money is locked up. A9o is certainly strong enough for an all-in.
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Re: Small tourny tactics, Mark, 12. Jun 2003 21:42
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I also agree that trying to win the whole thing is correct, as opposed to playing for 2nd place, however..

In that situation, i would never get involved in a 3 way pot with out a nut hand. I may limp in the blinds, but if i can't push all-in pre-flop against my two opponents, i would fold.

The reason being, if you let them fight it out, one of two things will happen.

1. the other short stack will lose all his chips and you lock up 2nd place. I don't really care about getting the extra 10%, but what i do care about is getting one step closer to 1st place. Also, you have one less opponent to worry about.

2. the other short stack doubles-up. this reduces the chip leaders stack, giving you a better shot at overcoming him.

mark
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Re: Small tourny tactics, Paul Stine, 13. Jun 2003 07:41
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on 12. Jun 2003 21:42 Mark wrote:
> I also agree that trying to win the whole thing is correct, as opposed to playing for
> 2nd place, however..
>
> In that situation, i would never get involved in a 3 way pot with out a nut hand. I
> may limp in the blinds, but if i can't push all-in pre-flop against my two opponents,
> i would fold.
>
> The reason being, if you let them fight it out, one of two things will happen.
>
> 1. the other short stack will lose all his chips and you lock up 2nd place. I
> don't really care about getting the extra 10%, but what i do care about is getting
> one step closer to 1st place. Also, you have one less opponent to worry about.
>
> 2. the other short stack doubles-up. this reduces the chip leaders stack, giving
> you a better shot at overcoming him.
>
> mark


I completely agree with the idea of not getting into three way pots with out real strength. I will often fold a mediocre hand on the button (as opposed to pushing it into two random hands in the blinds) in the hopes of getting the other two players to mix it up.

Beating two opponents out of $1000 each may be the same a beating one opponent out of $2000, but if I have only *one* opponent I have only to beat *one* opponent.

Paul Stine
College Station, TX
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Re: Small tourny tactics, stdioh, 13. Jun 2003 10:07
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Often times, playing to win these things means playing to survive one level. I find that most players in such tourneys have terrible heads up play and if I have 25% of the chips against 75% with an incompetent player I give myself a 50% chance of winning. Maybe that is hubris coming in, but these guys are real tards.

That said, when it is three handed I am happy to play fairly conservative poker and wait for one of these jimmies to eliminate the other. What I am completely uninterested in is getting into a coin flip situation to either bust somebody out or bust myself out. That's not the way to maximize profit. I'll still raise Ax or 22, but I'll get away from massive reraises unless I'm playing a maniac (in which case I'll trap with monsters).

The most important thing here is being able to change your style to take advantage of the styles of your opponents and to make them fight eachother and not you.
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