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 some1 help me with omaha, jdsalinger, 11. Jun 2003 12:31 | ||
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| been looking into branching out to give myself more options. Seems like a great game though I know nothing about it played it for the first time last night for play money for about 15min. sems like you can get lots of action but also some stability as you have to use both cards and you can always aim for the low if 3 fall 8 or below. Any advice or tips ? I know 4poker likes the game and do you pros prefer hi/lo or just the regular | ||
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| Re: some1 help me with omaha, noiseboy, 11. Jun 2003 13:04 | ||
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| GOTO playwinningpoker.com and read Steve Badger's articles. This is perhaps the best info from a free source. I started winning at O8 just from that, then I branched out and bought Cloutier and McEvoy's Championship Omaha book, which is mainly geared to tournament O8. I've heard that Zee's book is excellent, though I haven't got around to checking that one out. The great thing about O8 is that if you are playing better starting hands than your opponents, they are often drawing dead or drawing for 1/2 the pot. Because of this, the swings at O8 are lower than for hold'em as long as you mainly stick to hands with scoop potential. One of the main things your opponents will do at the low limits is chase after 1/2 the pot, as long as you are NOT doing that, you should win. High low games just give bad players so many excuses to play. | ||
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| Re: some1 help me with omaha, stdioh, 11. Jun 2003 13:12 | ||
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| Read Ciaffone's Omaha book...and read Steve Badger's stuff online too - and his old cardplayer articles. | ||
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| Re: some1 help me with omaha, noiseboy, 11. Jun 2003 14:11 | ||
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| Would you recommend that over Zee's book? I've heard Zee's book is really good, but that the stud8 section is better than the O8 section. I really have no interest in stud8 at the moment as none of the places around here spread it. | ||
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| Re: some1 help me with omaha, stdioh, 12. Jun 2003 08:24 | ||
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| To be honest, I haven't given Zee's book more than a flip through, which is a real pitty because Wreny has a copy of it sitting on the bookshelf. Likewise, my reading of Ciaffone was less than thorough. Thus, I can't give a very good recommendation, but certainly both get a lot of respect. | ||
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| Re: some1 help me with omaha, 4 POKER, 11. Jun 2003 16:11 | ||
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| I feel that it is important to have more than one game under your belt. You'll be allowing yourself a greater chance at earning because sometimes a game that you normally play in, may not be a good game that day, so when you have experience in another game as well, that will just give you more options and the opportunity to make money. Omaha is a great game and what I can tell you is this... If you learn the game(either through books and/or actual play), if you can adhere to playing extremely tight pre-flop, you will have a huge edge over your opponents. All too often people who play Omaha are playing sub-par starting hands, so when you chose to play hands that really are superior in strength, than you will beat the pants off of them! This game does require alot of patience and discipline however, because so many times you may say to yourself,"well this hand doesn't look that bad, maybe I'll just take a peek at the flop". BUT don't do that. Not in this game. There are so many combinations of hands that can be made when you do possess 4 cards, so if you strictly play "nut starting hands", you will be giving yourself better opportunities to completing a solid hand; one that works in both directions with positive expectations. Just a tip if you're first starting out: Don't play any pairs unless you are also holding 2 strong cards with them. (example) You're holding A-2-Q-Q, well that's a really good starting hand because you can make the nut low and a wheel(straight to the five) and you can also make the highest straight(!0-J-Q-K-A) and you can also complete a strong full house. But let's look at that holding with 2 rag cards(xx). Q-Q-6-7(for example). Well that holding can't make a nut low and the low that you would make with it would never be good enough to win half the pot anyway. All you really have here is a big pair and unless you flop a Q(and even then, that hand is in great danger because you have no back up for anything else), the hand is completely awful and has no positive expectations either. The reason why I am telling you to stay away from playing the pairs(unless their Aces w/2 decent cards as well), is because when you play Hold-em, the big pairs like Q-Q, J-J, K-K, ARE good starting hands so when you do decide to play Omaha, I just don't want you to get caught up in these particular holdings because they really do not have enough strength that would make it a profitable and correct decision to play them. This game is totally different than hold-em so you must be able to adjust and adhere to playing cards that really do favor this game. All your cards should work well with each other and when you read up on the game a little bit more, there will be a chapter that will explain what the best starting hands really are. Good luck to you. 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: some1 help me with omaha, Michael Adams, 11. Jun 2003 19:05 | ||
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| Omaha H/L is a fascinating game. It is more interesting to me than hold'em because you play with four cards. After playing omaha for a while, you will discover that hold'em can be pretty boring. | ||
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| Re: some1 help me with omaha, 4 POKER, 12. Jun 2003 03:53 | ||
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| Let me give you the flip-side to that. I think Omaha is a great game also, in fact it's my favorite game, however, one of the "Key" reasons for being able to play more than one game is so you don't get bored of poker all-together. I put in so many hours of Omaha over the last month or so and when I decided to put in a session of Hold-em my senses were so sharp; and I think that was because it was a refreshing change. Both games can be exciting to play I just feel for me that when I switch it up from time to time it makes it all that more interesting. Each form of poker is separate because you must use different strategies and starting hands, depending on the game at hand. I know that when I'm dealt pocket KK's in hold-em, the "rush" is definitely there. However, when I am dealt the same hand in stud 8 or better, it doesn't thrill me at all! One of the things that keeps me goin' and eager to play is variety; and variety is the spice of life. 4 POKER | ||
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