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 Internet Programs, randallt, 11. Jun 2003 10:07 | ||
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| I'm interested in finding out what type of programs the various interenet poker rooms use. How are the hands dealt? What sort of randomness is involved? What are the chances that the hands are manipulated? Any educated info would be greatly appreciated. | ||
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| Re: Internet Programs, chasepoker, 11. Jun 2003 16:35 | ||
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| Whilst no IT expert ( see previous post on burger flipping :) i have been been informed by one of my IT programming friends that the control of the random shuffle / deal at Paradise is by players random movements of the mouse. Aparently getting a computer to randomly think up numbers ( ie shuffle ) is quite hard and so they use this method to randomise numbers. Dont know if that helps but it was a good enough explanation for a sceptic like me. You want sauce with that ? Chasepoker | ||
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| Re: Internet Programs, Big_Slick, 11. Jun 2003 18:32 | ||
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| I hope you really don't believe that. | ||
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| Re: Internet Programs, chasepoker, 12. Jun 2003 07:16 | ||
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| As i said i am no IT expert but go to the below link and also read the extract i have chosen for you. http://www.paradisepoker.com/rng.html "Secondly (and mainly) the client programs send their own 32-bits of entropy with every action they make and with several of the other packets they send to the server. The client's entropy is gathered from both mouse and keyboard movements, as well as the lower 32-bits of their CPU time stamp counters. With thousands of clients connected using all sorts of different hardware and moving their mice in different non-predictable ways, this is by far the biggest source of entropy and gets us far more than 17 new random bits per second. In fact, tests performed in February 2001 indicate that it typically yields over 7000 bits of new random data per second. We're using several sources of reliably random entropy; no single point of failure. Can you say overkill" small, medium or large ? Chasepoker | ||
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| Re: Internet Programs, MozMan, 11. Jun 2003 20:00 | ||
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| Actually, random number generators are generally seeded with some kind of external number. For example, the most commonly used seed for a RNG is the system clock; they will use the last digit of the milliseconds at the exact time the event was fired. I think that most reputable poker sites use much more sophisticated ways of seeding the RNG; probably a third-party source of some type. I haven't looked into it, but when I have time, I will see wwhat I can find out. -Moz "Hey, your schwartz is as big as my schwartz." | ||
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