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 Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, 4 POKER, 8. Jun 2003 09:27 | ||
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| What do you consider to be the strongest part of your game and what do you feel to be your biggest weakness/leak? I think my biggest strength is my discipline and reading skills, where as I think my biggest weakness is not staying in the game long enough when I am winning. I feel that sometimes I am giving up the opportunity to earn more(even when I know I'm playing good poker), but still leave the game anyway. My overall earn is still something that I am pleased with but I wonder if I played longer if I could increase that as well. I think the reason is, I often get bored after a short period of time(4 -6 hours) and I never want to play if I'm really not into the game anymore. Now I'm strictly talking about live poker for when I play on the internet I will play multiple sessions throughtout the day so I can avoid feeling this way. I'm curious to know what you think and how you feel about your game. 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, MozMan, 8. Jun 2003 09:49 | ||
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| Funny I think I'm just the opposite. I am a very patient and steady person. I can sit at the table and force myself to do it right, even if it doesn't seem to be working. Another strength is my little voice (when I am willing to listen to it). My skills at reading my opponents are improving. My weakness is my study habits. I read a lot of good poker stuff, but get bored easily with it. Then my mind wanders while I'm reading and I completely miss the point. I try hard to keep on top of it, and read sections over and over to try to overcome this. I find that I get a lot more out of this forum in the short run; somehow it's more interesting. -Moz "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli." | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, 4 POKER, 8. Jun 2003 10:07 | ||
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| on 8. Jun 2003 09:49 MozMan wrote: > Funny I think I'm just the opposite. I am a very patient and steady person. I can sit > at the table and force myself to do it right, even if it doesn't seem to be working. > Another strength is my little voice (when I am willing to listen to it). My skills at > reading my opponents are improving. > > My weakness is my study habits. I read a lot of good poker stuff, but get bored > easily with it. Then my mind wanders while I'm reading and I completely miss the > point. I try hard to keep on top of it, and read sections over and over to try to > overcome this. I find that I get a lot more out of this forum in the short run; > somehow it's more interesting. > > -Moz > > "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli." Moz, Actually when I was talking about my reading skills I was referring to reading my opponents at the table, you know, putting them on certain holdings and things like that. As far as having patience, you wouldn't believe how much I have, It's just that I get bored after awhile.(heck, I once sat at a stud table for over 2 1/2 hours before playing my first hand! When I first started out, I loved poker and would put in a ton of hours, but I just think that from playing so many years of it, it sometimes becomes boring and feels like an actual job! Not that there's anything wrong with that, poker is my profession and I enjoy it very much, but I truly do believe that once I got past all of the glory and the excitement of it all is when I actually learned to apply my discipline skills and was able to make a good living from poker. (I would just like to get a piece of that excitement again so maybe it would allow me to sit just a little bit longer in the game. But, when I do have those feelings of boredom I will say this, I get up almost immediately and go home). 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, MozMan, 8. Jun 2003 21:02 | ||
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| on 8. Jun 2003 10:07 4 POKER wrote: > Actually when I was talking about my reading skills I was referring to reading my > opponents at the table, you know, putting them on certain holdings and things like that. OMG! Of course that's what you meant! I can't believe I did that. When I wrote this response, I had just gotten up this morning and had not finished my coffee yet... :) -Moz "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli." | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, 4 POKER, 8. Jun 2003 10:43 | ||
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| I agree Moz, The forum is definitely a lot more interesting than the books. Getting many different opinions and getting really strong advice is something to feel good about for sure. 4 POKER. | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, Andrew Wells, 8. Jun 2003 09:58 | ||
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| I would say my biggest strength is being able to constantly make appropriate adjustments to current table texture. Therein lies perhaps my biggest weakness too, as I therefore don't scope out the very best game to be playing in after my initial choice as much as I could or should. | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, Mark, 8. Jun 2003 10:37 | ||
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| This is an interesting post. I guess i never really sat down and thought about what i do well and what i do poorly. Lately, my game has really been improving. I am seeing much more than i used to, and reading opponents much better. I think a big problem i had for the last 2 years was that i didn't know there was so much information available, if you know what your looking for. 1. So, now i'm reading opponents better than i ever did. 2. I will leave a game if i don't think the potential for a big win is there (i.e. if i'm not one fo the better players i'll leave) In some cases this means that i don't get to play at all. 3. I am starting to really understand game theory, and understand how to apply it. ( i used think i understood it, but i didn't) 4. I am becoming a much more aggressive player (although selective) 5. I am now play against the players, position, situations, and images. I used to just play my cards. 6. My card memory for stud games On the other hand, my strengths all have room for much improvement. For my weakneses, 1. While I am able to adapt to changing game conditions, I sometimes stay in aggressive mode too long with boarderline hands against calling stations. 2. I don't play my best game all the time. 3. I sometimes call when i know i am beat. I use pot odds as a justifier to call when i am certain i am beat 4. I sometimes play hands out of relative position ( i.e. call when a tight player behind me raises) Coming up with weaknesses was really hard for me cause i've been having a phenominal last 2 weeks. I know i have weaknesses, but i don't think of them while i'm winning. If i had a bad coulple of weaks, i'm sure i would have alot more weaknesses. mark | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, 4 POKER, 8. Jun 2003 11:04 | ||
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| Mark, You stated that one of your strengths now was being able to read your opponents better. That's great and is extremely important(especially in hold-em where we are playing their hand just as much as we are playing our own). Being able to read your opponents will increase your earn a lot because you will be more able to value bet, bluff, and bail out of a bad situation because you simply had a tremendous "read" on the other player.(and bets that we can save add up the same way as bets that we make). One of your weaknesses was not folding when you know you're beat. Think about your strength one more time,you know, the one where you are getting really good reads on your opponents and try to "apply" that all the time and you will remove that weakness right off your list! Thanks for responding, 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, gary ford, 8. Jun 2003 11:45 | ||
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| Hello Dave---This is getting to be like an extended coffee shop discussion. Strengths--disciple, patience, exceptional reading skills, strong table image( everyone looks to me ). Weaknesses---Too friendly, too nice ( giving up a bet on the end to a player I like ) Changes I should make--play less stud, play more tournaments and more hold-em. Stop soft-playing anyone. What do you think? | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, 4 POKER, 8. Jun 2003 12:18 | ||
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| It sounds to me that you are a pretty decent player given all of your strengths. As far as your one weakness, giving up a bet to a player in which you like? two suggestions. 1.It would be real easy for me to just say that you should have no friends at the poker table and should play hard against all of your opponents but if that is not part of your character/personality, then I think that one would be real tough to change. What you could try and do is find a game where you know of noone,that might be easier but still might be a hard task at that. 2. If you play on-line poker then that would be so much easier for you to bet your hands correctly and consistently without having to check to anyone....at least it should be. 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, Kid, 8. Jun 2003 12:12 | ||
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| I would say my biggest strengths are discipline, reading players, and handling the ups and downs of playing a lot of poker. My biggest weakness is getting involved when my edge is slim to none. Like playing in a game full of pros just because I want to beat them or playing in a big PLO game and reasoning that I'll just use my general poker skills to beat it. Kid | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, balik, 8. Jun 2003 17:50 | ||
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| This is a great thread! I mostly play tournaments because of my greatest weakness (more on that in a moment). My greatest strength in tournaments: Waiting for the maniacs to kill each other. Playing only strong hands, and bailing when I'm weak. Sometimes this leads me to folding winners, but I think in the long run I make out ahead. I am also not intimated by the chip leader who tries to steal blinds and bully his/her way through the tournament. If I have a strong hand I play it, regardless of how many chips I have or my opponents. On the flip side, because of my steady play I have a strong table image that I can use in the later stages of the tournament to try and pull my own bluffs by attacking the pot when everyone else seems weak. It's true I get soft played sometimes, but for the most part I win. My greatest weakness: Not being able to withstand a losing streak in ring games. Especially online where the players might only sit for twenty minutes, then just when you get them figured out and you might get your money back, poof they're gone and here comes someone else ready to bet those pocket's 4's all the way to the river. Of course you don't know this, so when there is an Ace on the board and you have jacks you fold only to see this guy flip up this small pair at the end. I'm not sure I can overcome this, so until then I will continue to play tournaments. I like know what my risk is before I ever sit down. In time I am sure the swings in the ring games won't get to me that much,, and I will be right in there punching along with the best. P.S. I play at paradise and planet under the name Balik, but at Party Poker I play under the name whitefalcon. Clint: "You a bounty hunter?" BH: "Man's got to do something for a living." Clint: "Dying ain't much of a living, boy" Union soldier: "Well he ain't a hard man to follow. Leaves dead men wherever he goes." | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, Ostebovik, 8. Jun 2003 20:45 | ||
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| First off 4 POKER (Which if you hit the caps too early is $ Poker ?!) I'd like to say that I am an avid reader of this site and look forward to both your post and responses. You are clear and consice (sp?). I am a new player to the game, 6 mo or so. I consider my strengths to be my patience and discipline and my absolute thirst for knowedge to improve my game. I am very introspective and so look to myself first for reasons why I lost a certain hand or night. I study other players as best I can to see how/why they win, analyze their play and statements and look to incorporate those (if appropriate) into my game. My weaknesses are lack of experience thus leading to weak reading skills, not recognizing when I'm beat and bouts of emotion after losing session. The other night I was at a casino's cardroom here in the NW and there were several players VERY new to the game. I got sucked out at least 5 times for big pots and lost a couple racks. I stayed patient and waited for cards to come knowing that if they kept playing those cards I'd be able to beat their short-term luck factor. well it was not that night but I will go back and play the game I know wins over the long run and trust (because I don't have the experience to know) that I will beat them. One question I do have is when I start a new interest, whatever it is, I like to learn as much as I can and also get some kind of mentor to guide/debate my game. the problem is that I have led the way for my friends to play and they are not as dedicated to learning. so do you have any suggestions? perhaps I can create that kind of thing via email w/ someone on this site. perhaps that exactly what this site is... a many headed mentor... (thinking as I type...) :-) Well thanks for your posts and feedback. Gerard. Ostebovik@hotmail.com | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, 4 POKER, 10. Jun 2003 00:03 | ||
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| on 8. Jun 2003 20:45 Ostebovik wrote: > First off 4 POKER (Which if you hit the caps too early is $ Poker ?!) I'd like to > say that I am an avid reader of this site and look forward to both your post and > responses. You are clear and consice (sp?). > > I am a new player to the game, 6 mo or so. I consider my strengths to be my > patience and discipline and my absolute thirst for knowedge to improve my game. I am > very introspective and so look to myself first for reasons why I lost a certain hand > or night. I study other players as best I can to see how/why they win, analyze their > play and statements and look to incorporate those (if appropriate) into my game. > > My weaknesses are lack of experience thus leading to weak reading skills, not > recognizing when I'm beat and bouts of emotion after losing session. > > The other night I was at a casino's cardroom here in the NW and there were several > players VERY new to the game. I got sucked out at least 5 times for big pots and > lost a couple racks. I stayed patient and waited for cards to come knowing that if > they kept playing those cards I'd be able to beat their short-term luck factor. well > it was not that night but I will go back and play the game I know wins over the long > run and trust (because I don't have the experience to know) that I will beat them. > > One question I do have is when I start a new interest, whatever it is, I like to > learn as much as I can and also get some kind of mentor to guide/debate my game. the > problem is that I have led the way for my friends to play and they are not as > dedicated to learning. so do you have any suggestions? perhaps I can create that > kind of thing via email w/ someone on this site. perhaps that exactly what this site > is... a many headed mentor... (thinking as I type...) :-) > > Well thanks for your posts and feedback. > > Gerard. > > Ostebovik@hotmail.com hey O, You said that my responses were clear and consise and then you wrote in ( ), (sp)? What does sp stand for, I'm curious. My e-mail is: capa217@aol.com (though most of my posts are long enough)!! anyway, if you'd like...there's my address.. (4 POKER) | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, MozMan, 10. Jun 2003 11:23 | ||
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| Hey 4- "(sp)?" usually means "Spelling?" as in, "I'm not sure I spelled this word right." -Moz "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli." | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, 4 POKER, 10. Jun 2003 15:04 | ||
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| on 10. Jun 2003 11:23 MozMan wrote: > Hey 4- > > "(sp)?" usually means "Spelling?" as in, "I'm not sure I spelled this word right." > > -Moz > > "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli." Thanks Moz- | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, Banning, 8. Jun 2003 21:31 | ||
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| My Strengths: -having a friendly table image that makes the fish stick around -knowing a players style of play after just seeing him play a few hands. -Knowing how to adapt my play against the player based on his style of play for maximum profit. My weaknesses: -Getting married to a good hand. -Thinking I am better than I am, thus justifying playing more "marginal" hands (thus losing cash) | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, mongi, 9. Jun 2003 00:07 | ||
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| strenghs 1) patience and discipline 2)recognizing when the game is getting bad or I am just playing poorly and leaving. 3)continually trying to improve my game through reading and analyzing my play. 4)reading my opponent. weakness 5)sometimes I try to make too big of a laydown in situations where I have a good read on my opponent but fail to realize that even though I am probably beat now ; the implied odds I am getting plus the size of the pot justify making the call. 6)Not taking my foot off the pedal playing heads-up when it becomes apparent my opponent has a piece of the flop. 7) When I make a mistake, I tend to dwell on it too much instead of refocusing on the task at hand. 8)lack of experience. | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, shorn, 9. Jun 2003 05:27 | ||
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| My biggest strength I think is knowledge of "book" play. Having this as the backbone of my game allows me to deviate correctly where appropriate. I have many many weaknesses though: reading players, making good laydowns of second best hands, game selection, and tournament play/strategy. My goal is to eventually turn all of these into strengths although that is going to take a long time (especially tournament play where I always seem to get close to the money, but am having a lot of trouble adjusting my play around the bubble). | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, mdroban, 9. Jun 2003 06:06 | ||
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| Love this column too and it has been invaluable to me. I am not nearly as experienced as many of the pros here, but I am a profitable player online and have played well in the limited times I am able to get to a B&M. I have won many sit and gos and am looking to continuously improve and become an excellent player. My strengths are my passionate drive to win and I will constantly be looking to find a way to beat my opponents - figuring out how they play and, if necessary, how to adjust to it to beat them. I am a strategist (former chess player) and love those aspects of poker. One problem I have is that I have always struggled with ADD (attention deficit disorder). This really only affects me when I get bored and lose concentration a bit (which I do easily). So when focused, I play fantastically, but I get unfocused easily (especially when fatigued). Fortunately, ADD isn't a problem when stimulated. But it is more tiring to me to focus than for the average person, so I cannot play for exceptionally long periods of time. I also need to improve my reads (which are pretty good, even online but still need improvement). I tend to be a "doubter" and will presume the worse hand (that would allow me to win) rather than the better hand that beats me. I can save a lot of money being more pessimistic about my own chances in a hand. | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, Wren, 9. Jun 2003 10:03 | ||
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| My strengths: discipline, lack of tilt, reading ability, logical hand analysis, memory My weaknesses: I don't precisely count bets (I approximate), staying at a table that I'm probably not beating (due to internal or external factors), being a little too weak on the flop | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, Bond18, 9. Jun 2003 11:16 | ||
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| Strengths: Solid tourny player, no tilt, obcessive desire to learn and win, and youth giving me PLENTY of time to get better. Weakness: Somtimes get to aggressive. You know when you really just wanna gun sling everyone outta the pot? I tend to get that way to often. I still need to improve my reading skills as well as recognizing the way online players play. Hey Ostebovik if your looking for somebody to start emailing with your similar desire to learn and get better mine is Tony17@charter.net | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, Dave E, 9. Jun 2003 11:52 | ||
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| Strengths: knowing the odds and betting strategy. I also make good guesses with how to decieve. Weaknesses: reading players(except for guessing how to decieve), not following play at all times, and not always having enough balls. | ||
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| Re: Your biggest strength vs. your biggest weakness, stdioh, 10. Jun 2003 11:13 | ||
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| My strength is in my reads and ability to judge my opponents for weakness, thus being able to bluff better and call bluffs better. This makes my no limit tournament game particularly strong. My biggest weakness is my occasional lapse in judgement that causes me to totally disrespect and opponent and lose one fat wad of cash at once. For instance, last weekend I was playing PLO8 in an extremely loose agressive game. My AA2X went nowhere on a flop of 27T and it was checked around to me ... there were only 3 of us in the pot due to my pot sized preflop raise. I bet out pot and got checkraised pot by a frequent bluffer. The "alien hand syndrome" that Jan Fischer talks about took over and I called only to not improve for a high or a low and be squarely beaten by a set (duh). Rank beginners are better than this, but occasionally I'll plong away a pile of money on a *very* fishy nothing of a hand. Needless to say, it doesn't happen often and when it does I beat myself up thoroughly for it. | ||
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