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Why do we share bad beat stories?, mkpoker, 2. Jun 2003 16:31 | ||
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| This is a serious psychological question: Why do poker players feel compelled to share their bad beat stories? I mean, everybody has one (or 100). And they all end the same way..."Can you believe it! He called with 72o (or 93, T5, J3) and busted my AA (or KK, QQ, AK)! Why do poker players (myself included) seem to obsess over what's really a normal part of the game. Any theories? (I'll start with one,: Because we need the comfort of confirmation that we "should" have won that hand--and lost not because of skill, but because of a freakish act of luck). | ||
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Re: Why do we share bad beat stories?, MozMan, 2. Jun 2003 16:56 | ||
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| >>>Because we need the comfort of confirmation that we "should" have won that hand--and lost not because of skill, but because of a freakish act of luck<<< That's a very good observation. In addition I think we need confirmation that this doesn't only happen to "me." When we share those stories, invariably, someone says, "Yeah, that happens to me all the time too..." then we don't feel so much like the poker gods singled us out to punish us for some past poker-transgression. -Moz "There is no spoon." | ||
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Re: Why do we share bad beat stories?, Bond18, 2. Jun 2003 21:18 | ||
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| I'd agree with the idea of justifying your loss in that it wasn't your fault, after all you made all the right moves. They are just part of the game but when a guy gets his homerun robbed in baseball i imagine theres that same feeling, but you still know you did everything right. | ||
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Re: Why do we share bad beat stories?, shorn, 3. Jun 2003 04:34 | ||
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| I think some of it has to do with the fact that most humans think that they are "good people" and we have trouble understanding why bad things happen to "good people". I am hoping (as Wren pointed out in another thread yesterday) that if I play long enough, I will react to each hand like I react to violence on TV now...with no reaction at all because it is so common. Until then, it will be a constant battle to keep focus when these beats occur (especially when they come in bunches, which for me, they invariably do...) | ||
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Re: Why do we share bad beat stories?, 4 POKER, 4. Jun 2003 23:46 | ||
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| on 3. Jun 2003 04:34 shorn wrote: > I think some of it has to do with the fact that most humans think that they are "good people" > and we have trouble understanding why bad things happen to "good people". I am hoping (as Wren > pointed out in another thread yesterday) that if I play long enough, I will react to each hand > like I react to violence on TV now...with no reaction at all because it is so common. > > Until then, it will be a constant battle to keep focus when these beats occur (especially when > they come in bunches, which for me, they invariably do...) Good Response. Direct and to the point. (if there is anyone out there that has never had a story to tell, than I will personally give you double the fee that Stdioh is charging! Yes, it is annoying to constantly have to listen to some of these bad beat stories(some of them are so ridiculous and otherwise boring) BUT, I don't know of anyone that has not told me at least one story in their poker playing days...we all fail victim to that, we just may not realize it at times. 4 POKER | ||
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I don't know, but..., stdioh, 3. Jun 2003 07:58 | ||
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| ...you should capitalize on it. What we need is a whining room right next to the smoking room, where people can go between rounds and tell their bad beat stories. I've made it a personal policy that if somebody wants to tell me a bad beat story at the table (and I got the idea from another player at Brantford - it isn't original) I will hold out my hand and ask for $5. That is my fee for listening intently to a bad beat tale. | ||
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Re: I don't know, but..., shorn, 3. Jun 2003 08:00 | ||
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| That ought to increase your hourly rate. Hell, might even overwhelm it... | ||
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Re: I don't know, but..., Wren, 3. Jun 2003 09:52 | ||
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| You're actually doing that?! Hee. I should've adopted this policy with you. Man, I could have made a good $70-80 this week alone :P | ||
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Re: I don't know, but..., stdioh, 4. Jun 2003 11:28 | ||
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| Mike (young guy with white hair) got mad because he kept trying to tell me stories on the weekend and I kept holding out my hand. | ||
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Re: Why do we share bad beat stories?, Frank Grimes, 3. Jun 2003 13:04 | ||
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| It's a defense mechanism designed to validate that we did the right thing. And it's not limited to poker. How many times has a pitcher claimed that "I made a good pitch, but he hit it" or a hockey player say "The bounces just didn't go our way?" | ||
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Re: Why do we share bad beat stories?, Banning, 3. Jun 2003 16:38 | ||
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| Some of the Bad Beat stories are good. For instance, some people say: this is what I did, this was the sort of player I was playing against...he did this I lost. Could I have played it better or not? When people whine about how they lost a few extra big bets per hour because of some loose player calling when he should have been folding...well that person should just shut up. Those loose calling stations are the major source of your income. I do appreciate bad beat stories that happen to people in tournaments because one would hope that those guys are trying to think. Mike Caro says that if the only times you are losing are because of being sucked out on then that is because you are playing good poker. Losing by being sucked out on encourages people to call more often. | ||
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