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 pocket fives, PokerDude, 1. Jun 2003 13:09 | ||
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| I was recently at a no limit hold em tournament. It was the first round after the buy ins were no longer allowed. I had poket fives and I limped in for the 200 blind. On the flop there was the little blind, the big blind, and myself. the flop came 578 with two hearts. the little blind checked and the big blind bet 500 to go. He had about 3800 left after his bet. I had 4000 left at this point. I went all in with my trip fives, cuz I did not want him to draw to his flush, if that's what he was doing. He pondered and finally called, showing pocket eights. Did I play this right? I know low pocket pairs are dangerous, but was my play on the flop profitable? | ||
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| Re: pocket fives, Andrew Wells, 1. Jun 2003 13:38 | ||
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| The only alternative I see, given your stack sizes was to make about a pot sized raise on the flop. Your opponent is probably going to push all-in with top set anyway. However if he does have a draw, you have enough left to make it incorrect for him to call your all-in bet if a blank hits on the turn. Once he thinks about it, the only hand he really fears is Th9h so he's going to commit with top set anyway. Once you see the flop you are cold decked, you just ran into the overset. I'd still go big, it's the right idea to take away odds from a hand like the nut flush draw. It's your preflop play that you need to be looking at. If you were in late position with just those blinds, I don't agree with your decision to just call. I would make it something like 800 to go, or just muck and get on with the next hand. If you were not in late position but now also apparently well into (over an hour - after the rebuy and add-on period) the tourney, I would muck this pair unless the table was extremely tight. Even then, I would pass from early position. You really have to hope no one makes any kind of a raise, and still get heads-up with a blind that misses the flop if you can't just steal outright. If it was very early in the tourney, then a limp has more value since you are trying to catch a big hand cheap. As it happened, a raise preflop may have been called by the big blind anyway. | ||
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| Re: pocket fives, BigDMcGee, 1. Jun 2003 14:58 | ||
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| I agree completely with andrew... It sounded like to me that you're at an intermediate point in the tourniment. If it's early, and can flop a set cheap, I play fives. If it's late, and I'm short stacked, looking at being blinded out, I'd go all in in a late position. But it's at that middle ground in a tourniment that you reallyo have to be careful with your hands. Limping doesn't really have much value in late position in any tourniments if no one else has entered the pot. If you're going to be playing, you should be raising in late position. But again, five five is a horrible hand to raise with, you never know really where you are on the flop without a five, so any bet you make is basically a bluff, hoping your opponent missed. Plus, raising in the blinds in late position always smacks of a blind steal, so if the blinds have anything , they could call, unless they are partiucarlly tight. It's better just to muck the hand, and save your chips for a better hand that you know where you're at better. Limping with that hand should be done early, durning a rebuy period preferably, and with more people in the pot that you can potentilally trap, or to a small preflop raise that you might suspect is someone betting a big hand weakly ( a common mistake. People make a small raise with a big pocket pair like AA or KK, and all they are doing is trapping themselves to hands like jt suited, and 55). But again, in general, you should be aggressive with any hand you're playing in a tourniment if you're the first one in the pot. | ||
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| Re: pocket fives, PokerDude, 1. Jun 2003 20:30 | ||
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| would you still play aggressively when you are the first in the pot if you are on a limited bankroll, say 1-2 rebuys? does anyone know if you have to have Apple to watch the video archives? | ||
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| Re: pocket fives, BigDMcGee, 2. Jun 2003 01:08 | ||
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| Any hand that i'm first in the pot with, i'm going to play aggressively, unless A) I was setting a trap with AA or KK, B) the blinds were small compared to my, and everyone elses stack size, and the table was passive. If your bankroll is so short that it effects your hand selection and play, you shouldn't be playing in that tourniment anyway. My tourniment strategy has nothing to do with my bankroll. | ||
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| Re: pocket fives, stdioh, 2. Jun 2003 11:41 | ||
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| You played it fine from the flop, but you probably shouldn't have been there at all. If you were in early position you probably should have folded your 55 and in late position you probably should have raised them for a steal in an uncalled hand. 55 plays well heads up and it plays better in a giant multiway pot. The fact that you hit a set and somebody hit a bigger set is an issue you should take up at your next audience with the poker gods. | ||
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