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 Opening hands in Omaha, Cade, 31. May 2003 11:40 | ||
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| Can someone tell what are the best starting hands in omaha hold'em. I've been playing it more lately because some of the people I play with like it alot. It seems to me that it is better to be holding cards that give you straight draws and fluh draws multiple ways than to be holding a high pair. Your responses are greatly appreciated? -Cade | ||
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| Re: Opening hands in Omaha, Big_Slick, 31. May 2003 12:36 | ||
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| Omaha is a much debated game with "experts" arguing over many different topics... even starting hands. These are the starting hands that Phil Hellmuth recommends in his new book (in order of strength). A-A-2-3 A-A-2-x A-A-3-x A-2-3-4 A-2-3-x A-2-K-K A-2-Q-Q A-2-3-5 A-A-4-5 A-A-x-x A-2-Q-K A-2-K-J A-2-x-x A-3-K-K A-3-4-x 2-3-4-5 J-Q-K-A 10-J-Q-K J-Q-K-K 9-10-J-Q 2-3-4-X Any four cards between a ten and an ace. Obviously by starting with hands such as these are you trying for the nut low, the nut straight (which is a guaranteed winner if there aren't any pairings on the board), and full houses. One mistake I would like to point out that I see a lot of beginners make (and I did this a lot too when I first started playing) is to not play starting hands that include 3-of-a-kind. For example J-J-J-A. Since you can only use 2 cards from your hand and you know there is only one more card in the deck that matches yours, you are hurting yourself (usually) by playing these hands. I'll admit to playing A-A-A-10 once and I lost the hand. You are going to get into trouble in this game by coming in second-best. By playing only the best starting hands, you're hoping to avoid that. I'm not anywhere near an expert, but I hope this helps. | ||
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| Re: Opening hands in Omaha, Big_Slick, 31. May 2003 12:39 | ||
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| Let me add that the nut straight will only win if there isn't a flush on board. I failed to recognize that obvious fact. | ||
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| Re: Opening hands in Omaha, PokerDude, 2. Jun 2003 11:52 | ||
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| do you know what the overall odds of holding one of these hands? | ||
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| Re: Opening hands in Omaha, Snorbolus, 2. Jun 2003 12:02 | ||
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| How can A235 be worse than A23X? Snorbolus on 31. May 2003 12:36 Big_Slick wrote: > Omaha is a much debated game with "experts" arguing over many different topics... > even starting hands. These are the starting hands that Phil Hellmuth recommends in > his new book (in order of strength). > > A-A-2-3 > A-A-2-x > A-A-3-x > A-2-3-4 > A-2-3-x > A-2-K-K > A-2-Q-Q > A-2-3-5 > A-A-4-5 > A-A-x-x > A-2-Q-K > A-2-K-J > A-2-x-x > A-3-K-K > A-3-4-x > 2-3-4-5 > J-Q-K-A > 10-J-Q-K > J-Q-K-K > 9-10-J-Q > 2-3-4-X > Any four cards between a ten and an ace. > > Obviously by starting with hands such as these are you trying for the nut low, the > nut straight (which is a guaranteed winner if there aren't any pairings on the > board), and full houses. One mistake I would like to point out that I see a lot of > beginners make (and I did this a lot too when I first started playing) is to not play > starting hands that include 3-of-a-kind. For example J-J-J-A. > > Since you can only use 2 cards from your hand and you know there is only one more > card in the deck that matches yours, you are hurting yourself (usually) by playing > these hands. I'll admit to playing A-A-A-10 once and I lost the hand. > > You are going to get into trouble in this game by coming in second-best. By playing > only the best starting hands, you're hoping to avoid that. > > I'm not anywhere near an expert, but I hope this helps. | ||
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| Re: Opening hands in Omaha, gunbuster, 31. May 2003 16:02 | ||
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| I don't know if you're talking about Omaha High or Omaha Hi-Lo 8's or better (AKA O/8). In either case, the most important thing to realize is that Omaha is about having the nuts or having strong draws to the nuts. The other thing to remember is to have a hand where the cards work well with one another. Remember that you have 6 different 2-card combinations. It would be a mistake to play the hand only for one of the combinations when the other 5 are awful. | ||
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| Re: Opening hands in Omaha, BigDMcGee, 1. Jun 2003 16:06 | ||
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| It also depends on what form of omaha you're playing.. If you're playing pot limit, the value of middle run down cards( this is in omaha high) goes way up. In Eights or better, you basically want hands that draw one way to the nuts, preferably both ways to the nuts.. THat's why ace duuce with a suited ace is usually playable, because you have a nut low, and a nut high draw. Also, I like pocket kings alot more in a muliway pot then pockett aces, because basically, your big pocket pairs don't hold up, that ou need to flop your set, if you're going to win any of the pot. And if you flop your ace, it's much more likely you're going to split the pot with low then if you flop your king. How ever, if you're playing high cards, you have to make sure it's a multiway pot ( most low limit omaha high low games are) because it's not profitable to play all high cards heads up, 'cause low gets there so often. And don't play any pocket pairs less than Queens, unless you have an ace duece to go with them. Because flopping undersets only get you in trouble. You only have the nuts if you get four of a kind. Flushes and straights almost always get there, some one could have an overset ( it's much more common in omaha) and even if they don't, Any board pairing can give someone a better ful house who had two pair, and you'll just lose money. You always want to have top set, so if the board pairs, you know you've won the hand.. Also, don't draw to non nut hands, like jack high flushes.. unless you have other ways to win the hand, like two pair, a set, or a low draw. Because you just see the nuts too often in omaha, and you make most of your prophit from other people drawing to non nut hands.. anyway, there's my omaha knowledge.. god, I'm rambling today.. LOL | ||
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| Re: Opening hands in Omaha, stdioh, 2. Jun 2003 10:42 | ||
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| It should also be mentioned that sets lower than queens can never be the nuts. The reson is that if you are holding JJ or lower then the board must either contain a card of Q or higher or the board must have the potential for a straight. For this reason flopping top set with TT is still a draw to a tight. You really want to pair up the board *and* hit a brick so you still end up with the nuts. | ||
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