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 The Luck factor in tournaments, JLenart, 28. May 2003 08:10 | ||
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| Would someone please discuss the vastly greater effect of the luck factor during tournament play. After a good solid run in sit and go games I've been sucked out a few times recently and I've been thinking about how luck is a much bigger factor in tournament play as the tournament is held over a finite amount of time. A moron player will have short runs of luck in a ring game but eventually get beat. However a short run of luck may be all that is needed in a tournament. I say this because I just got beat out when I flopped a set of aces when the flop came a24 rainbow buy a guy in late position who stayed in with 35o. WHO STAYS IN WITH THAT!!!!! Oh well, it happens i suppose. So how can one help his game when the luck factor is so high. Thanks John p.s. This luck factor is what I'll be counting on heavily during the UPF tourny on Planet. I'll need it ;-) | ||
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| Re: The Luck factor in tournaments, noiseboy, 28. May 2003 08:47 | ||
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| Yeah, suck-outs are a drag. However, you had a pretty good chance to re-suck and pull a full house, it just didn't come through. I got busted out of my most recent tourney on a suck out. I had A9, not that great but I was short stacked and the blinds were about to eat me up. I went all in and this guy with some chips to spare called me with K9. I was elated when a 9 flopped, he pretty much had to hit a K after that, but he had a backdoor flush come through on the river. I was really bummed, because it was getting close to the final table and 1st prize was 5K. I think the trick to dealing with suckouts and the luck factor is to consider it one LONG tournament, just like ring game players consider it one long poker game. That way you don't worry too much about the short term. People that play trash hands frequently are dead money in a tournament, and good players eventually get all that dead money. The players who put beats on you are the ones who chase, normally you want them to chase although it does suck when they get there. In any given tournament, probably 50% or more of the players have very little chance of winning unless the deck runs them over like a freight train. Long term you will get your share of the dead money. | ||
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| Re: The Luck factor in tournaments, Roy Cooke, 28. May 2003 09:30 | ||
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| The luck factor in tournaments is proportionate to the structure of the tournament. The faster the pace the more luck involved. Very aggressive players who tend to dominate when things are running well tend to do better in tournaments over the grind it out style. Of course, when they play the same style in ring games they are more prone to get stuck big, tilt and dig deep. In tournaments they just lose their buy-in. Roy Cooke on 28. May 2003 08:10 JLenart wrote: > Would someone please discuss the vastly greater effect of the luck factor during > tournament play. After a good solid run in sit and go games I've been sucked > out a few times recently and I've been thinking about how luck is a much bigger > factor in tournament play as the tournament is held over a finite amount of > time. A moron player will have short runs of luck in a ring game but eventually > get beat. However a short run of luck may be all that is needed in a tournament. > I say this because I just got beat out when I flopped a set of aces when the > flop came a24 rainbow buy a guy in late position who stayed in with 35o. WHO > STAYS IN WITH THAT!!!!! > > Oh well, it happens i suppose. > > So how can one help his game when the luck factor is so high. > > Thanks > > John > p.s. This luck factor is what I'll be counting on heavily during the UPF tourny > on Planet. I'll need it ;-) > | ||
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| Re: The Luck factor in tournaments, MozMan, 29. May 2003 15:30 | ||
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| Hey John- It may also be helpful to realize that the only reason you notice when a fish gets lucky is because you don't get to see all the hands that didn't get lucky. Next time you play a SNG, pay attention to the guys that bust out early. Most often, you never see their cards... even if they chase all the way to thr river, they muck on the show-down when they didn't win. Being a reasonable player, you tend to think, "Oh, he must have had a lower 2-pair, or something" but you never really think about how may of those hands were trash that just lost. -Moz "There is no spoon." | ||
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