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 New to O8, HUSTLER81, 28. May 2003 08:03 | ||
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| Im working on developing some good starting hand standards but the charts i have seen seem confusing and hard to remember. Does anyone have any suggestions on an easy method to follow. Also does anyone know how accurate the chart in Hellmuth's new book is. Thanks in advance. | ||
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| Re: New to O8, Snorbolus, 28. May 2003 08:56 | ||
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| I am just starting to learn this game myself. My research so far has lead me to believe that you should only play hands that can easily make the nuts in several different ways. Ideally I want to flop a lot of outs (double figures), to the nut high and a good shot at the nut low. The second nut high or low I am not so keen on - certainly wouldn't draw to just that. I don't even bother to consider the third nut holding in either direction. Scooping is great, more than twice as good as getting half the pot. Always think about scooping when considering starting hands. To play a hand that can only win high, I want it to be very pretty (all cards above 10 and something else going for it too). Suited aces are very nice, especially in 2 suited hands with low cards. Best preflop hand is AA23 double suited. As I say, I am very new to O8. Posting mostly to see if others agree with these starting standards. Snorbolus | ||
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| Re: New to O8, BigDMcGee, 28. May 2003 20:53 | ||
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| Don't draw to non nut hands, particularlly in lose games with lots of players. don't get involved in sets that aren't top sets. Don't draw to flushes unless they are nut flushes. Don't draw to low unless it is nut low. The only exception to this might be if you have a two way hand, like top two pair, and second low draw, or second high flush, second low flush. But Most of your prophet in low limit O* games witll be when your oppents draw to non nut hands that are worse then your nut hand. | ||
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| Re: New to O8, stdioh, 29. May 2003 09:47 | ||
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| Good advice. Also, keep in mind that you can have massive draws that make you a favourite and are worth betting. For instance if you have a big wrapper draw to the nut straight and you are drawing to the nut flush and there is no low, you can bet this for value. Likewise, a hand like second nut low, second nut high, with 4 outs to the nut high and 4 outs to the nut low can be called down. | ||
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| Re: New to O8, stdioh, 29. May 2003 09:37 | ||
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| Make sure that all of your cards work 4 ways at least (make 4 different hold'em or low hands out of the 4 cards) or that all 4 work together for a good straight draw. TJQK is easy to flop a big wrapper to the nuts with. AA23 gives you A2 A3 and AA and if there is suitedness on an ace it gives you nut flush potential. Generally speaking you should also be avoiding hands that will only get you half the pot. Something like 2377 is a piece of junk. Even if there is a low and the board hits an ace, you will get quartered a fair bit with 23. Your chance of making a high essentially demands that you make a wheel or hit a tight with your 77 and in either case chances are very high that it won't be the nuts. A hand like this is junky. Also, something like 6h6s7h8s is a piece of cheese because if you do hit your nut straight, there is going to be a low so you'll only be getting half. If you hit a flush, it is a very poor flush, so it'll probably be beat, and your chance of actually winning a low is almost nil. Hands like A2KK double suited are really nice in O8. You can scoop a high by making a nut or second nut flush, your kings can make a lock tight, you're holding the nut low if there is a noncounterfeiting low, and you've even got potential to hit broadway when you might rope somebody with a worse straight along. Likewise, something like TJQK rainbow is just fine. If you hit your hand you'll have tonnes of nut straight draws and redraws and if you hit your hand you're unlikely to be splitting with a low. If you don't hit your hand it is very easy to get away from. | ||
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| Re: New to O8, Jav, 29. May 2003 11:03 | ||
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| That was a nice explanation of the "4 cards that work together" rule. I found this a little confusing at first, and your post is a good explanation of the concept. But here's an omaha question. Why do I seem to get trips in my 4 card hand sooo often! Maybe because it ends up being trash I just remember it more often. Very frustrating! | ||
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| Re: New to O8, Andrew Wells, 29. May 2003 11:26 | ||
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| The same reason a hold'em player gets dealt 72o more than AKo, it's what we choose to remember. | ||
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| Re: New to O8, stdioh, 29. May 2003 13:45 | ||
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| Let me put it this way. In 4 cards, your chance of getting trips is equal to about 1 in 21. Fairly uncommon. When you think about it in another light though, your chance of getting 55, 66, 77, 88, 99, TT, JJ, QQ, or KK is about 1 in 22. So if you think about it that way, you should get trips dealt to you in Omaha about as often as you get pocket pairs of 5's or higher dealt to you in Hold'em. | ||
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