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 How would you play 4-of-a-kind?, Big_Slick, 24. May 2003 15:06 | ||
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| I was in a tourney recently and limped in with J-2 in the SB. The flop came J-J-J. There were 3 others in the hand with me. I knew I had the hand won at this point (pretty astute, huh?) so I merely checked after the flop. Not surprising, everyone else checked as well. The turn brought a 10. I checked again hoping someone caught a 10 for the full house. Everyone checked. The river brought some trash. I checked again hoping someone caught the full house. No one did and they all checked. After thinking about it, I think I should have bet the river. Someone with an ace might have taken a chance that they had me beat. How would you have played the hand? Side note: Earlier in the tourney, I folded Q-2 in the SB only to see the board fill up with J-2-2-2-5. What a crazy game. That's why I played the J-2 later that day. I think the poker gods were trying to tell me something. | ||
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| Re: How would you play 4-of-a-kind? Bet it, Easy E, 24. May 2003 16:25 | ||
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| Not much chance of a second chance hand that will pay off, if you were allowed to limp in the SB. If your image would promote the "he's stealing" conclusion, bet on the flop (when it's cheap). DEFINATELY on the turn if you didn't bet the flop (that SCREAMS steal!) | ||
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| Re: How would you play 4-of-a-kind? Bet it, Swagman, 24. May 2003 17:19 | ||
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| I wouldnt slow play this. betting the flop. Will get you more callers then waiting until the turn. Most astute players are gonna be waiting for you to bet the turn anyhow, and will likely fold. However, with the flop you might get callers that are holding power hands, and pocket pairs. Some players may even raise you to see where your at, especially if your in early position. If u get any action at all I wouldnt raise until the river, because you obviously want to keep as many people in the pot as you can. My advice that in almost all cases, if you curious as to how you should play a hand, that the straightforward honest approach is generally the best. Tricky play is mostly situational. | ||
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| Re: How would you play 4-of-a-kind? Bet it, 3Kings, 24. May 2003 18:09 | ||
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| Most people will expect a person to check a flopped 4 of a kind. You might as well bet it. On the flop you will probably get a call or two from people with an A thru T. If you don't get any action now, then you probably wouldn't get any action later anyway. If you do get callers, you can check the turn and someone may try to take it from you with a wired pair. My personal example in this situation: I had 88 in middle position. Flop comes 8c 8s 7c. I decided to go ahead and bet it. Got two callers on the flop and turn. One caller on the river. I know when the board brings trips, the situation is different as you only need one card. My opinion and as most of my opinions open to much debate. | ||
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| Re: How would you play 4-of-a-kind?, Andrew Wells, 24. May 2003 20:22 | ||
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| I might have bet the flop incase someone with a pocket pair or overcards wanted to play. Sometimes the hand can become one of posturing between two players with ace something, each trying to rob the other. On rare occasions I have checkraised when I'm playing someone for a big overpair (full), and then check /called on the turn. I don't like slow playing quads because anyone who would potentially pay you off is going to call one bet on the flop. If they then catch up I can get an extra big bet or sometimes two, primarily because I played like I wanted to steal it on the flop. | ||
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| Re: How would you play 4-of-a-kind?, BigDMcGee, 25. May 2003 05:46 | ||
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| Were you in a limit or no limit tourniment? If I checked or bet or not would depend mostly on who I was playing with.. if there was an aggressive bluffer, I would check it to them, and let them bluff, particularlly in a no limit one. but, I would definatly bet on the end, for certain, because that is most likely to look like a steal. And it also depends on your image at the table.. If i'd been aggressive, and betting alot of hands ( as is my wont) I would definatly bet it. The only way to make a loose aggressive image (not image, you don't have to be loose) work is to bet your big hands along with your little ones. That way, you get paid off when you have the nuts, as opposed to the rocks. Anyway, because you have the deck so crippled, and everyone limped before the flop, indicating no one had much in the way of pocket pairs, I would proably check at least once, and pray for an ace or a king or something like that.. | ||
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| Re: How would you play 4-of-a-kind?, Big_Slick, 25. May 2003 08:38 | ||
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| It was a limit game. I was so shocked at the flop, I didn't know what the heck to do. | ||
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| Re: How would you play 4-of-a-kind?, stdioh, 26. May 2003 08:46 | ||
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| If it were something smaller, like quad 6's then I would bet out on the flop, building a pot while somebody chases overcards. Small bet. With the jacks, I'm essentially saying that I've got at least a decent pair if I bet out the flop, so I'm going to check it around, however I'll bet the turn with something like a 1/3 pot bet and hopefully somebody will have caught something and want to fight me for it or figure me for a bluff and try to push me. | ||
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| Re: How would you play 4-of-a-kind?, noiseboy, 27. May 2003 09:38 | ||
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| You should go ahead and bet the turn AND the river. If you've been known to bluff on occassion, people might give you action with medium and large pocket pairs, or perhaps if somebody has a ten. However, if nobody has anything, you're likely not going to get any action regardless of how you play it. | ||
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| Re: How would you play 4-of-a-kind?, trwebb26, 27. May 2003 09:56 | ||
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| I don't even think I would've played the J-2 in the small blind with 3 callers - unless the game was VERY loose. I HATE hands like this - and most of the time am just throwing away the money if I call. Obviously it worked out for you this time... Anybody else have thoughts on this? | ||
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| Re: How would you play 4-of-a-kind?, Big_Slick, 27. May 2003 10:09 | ||
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| No... you are right. This is a situation where I got extremely lucky. I don't usually play hands this weak in the SB. | ||
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