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 5/21/03 WPT in Paris, Easy E, 22. May 2003 04:26 | ||
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| From my notes on the game (I missed some, dealing with my $30 American Idol loss... how could you FAIL me, Clay?) I'm betting to HATE the phrase "it takes a minute to learn but a lifetime to master" First hand, AA on Kd5d8x flop. Do you HAVE to raise all-in here,with two-flush out there, because you won't get any playback from your heads-up opponent anyway? I thought the way the dealers dealt the cards was interesting. Added a little flair to the proceedings. Vince van Patten- you KNOW what's coming, but don't make your comments precede the action on the screen. You jumped the gun early on, saying Allen C was raising T40K before he even really started counting his chips. Is Tony C Mike Mastauo (sp?) or Phil Hellumuth on steriods? what a talker. I wonder if he'll shut up later, when he's not leading the table any more? And the "pick any card!" thing was silly. Another Vince giveaway comment- one player peeks at A3 after a big bet in front and Vince says "but he's picked up A3!".... making it obvious that the player was going to call....which YOU knew, Vince, because you were taping! Mike Sexton's comment about Tony G playing around, when it was probably that he was going to fold, saying "he's getting a little air time" was a pretty good one. Tony G- it's always nice to flop a house with QQ after you raise preflop. The poker gods are going to punish you for the yapping, I'll bet (hey, I have to make up for my "Idol" loss) From what I saw, I wonder if HOWARD L would care to comment on Tony G??? ;) Well, if he gets to this anytime soon after the WSOP.... Bad/weird Mike Sexton comment (I missed the earlier comment, i guess?): "(Allen C) was doing 50 miles on the Interstate- now he's going 60!" .... Huh? I see Tony's shutting up against Allen C- maybe because Allen's been slapping him around a little? Tony had an interesting fold of QQ to Chris's reraise with AK... Seemed like a pretty tough laydown, though evidently Chris had a pretty tight image. I was surprised, since it wasn't close to all-in, that Tony folded. I wonder how satisfying it was to Jacques to take Tony out at 5th place? (I notice he DID shut up when down.... someone pay me!) (missed a lot here, didn't get back until near the end. What happened to Allen C?) Chris vs. Claude heads-up. Claude had just taken a big pot, Chris folding when Claude goes all-in, and Claude was slightly? the chip leader. Claude then goes all-in with AK after Chris opened with 77. Chris made a heck of a call here. Would YOU have? Now, Claude is now desperately low, still recovering from the last hand. Why go all-in with T2off? Do you just go in with ANY hand here, or is a single ten enough, when you're down 10:1 or whatever it was? I didn't know what the blinds were, so I don't know how many rounds Claude had. The ending and signoff was surprisingly low-key (given other WPT shows). Is this a European custom/requirement, or one of the card club that the show was in? Oh well, on to next week! | ||
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| Re: 5/21/03 WPT in Paris, timmer, 22. May 2003 06:50 | ||
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| On 22. May 2003 04:26 Easy E wrote: > Is Tony C Mike Mastauo (sp?) or Phil Hellumuth on steroids? What a talker. > I wonder if he'll shut up later, when he's not leading the table any more? And > the "pick any card!" thing was silly. > No what was silly was the fact that no one took him up on it. Huge Mistake on their part. Those guys should of turned up ever card that he let them and perhaps a few more. > Chris vs. Claude heads-up. Claude had just taken a big pot, Chris folding > when Claude goes all-in, and Claude was slightly? The chip leader. Claude then > goes all-in with AK after Chris opened with 77. Chris made a heck of a call > here. Would YOU have? NO Way Jose' Putting in all you chips where you are either a small favorite or a big dog is a mistake. Although they may very well have made a deal while Chris was the big stack. Making him the most money minus a save. In that case this general rule isn't quite as important. > > Now, Claude is now desperately low, still recovering from the last hand. > Why go all-in with T2off? Do you just go in with ANY hand here, or is a single > ten enough, when you're down 10:1 or whatever it was? I didn't know what the > blinds were, so I don't know how many rounds Claude had. aside from the deal thing we talked about in the last embedded message I do think it was a mistake. He could of waited quite a few more hands before going all in. he had T80K right and I dont remember the blinds being all that high at that time. of course many of the following hands may have been edited out. > Oh well, on to next week! | ||
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| Re: 5/21/03 WPT in Paris, ice, 22. May 2003 07:51 | ||
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| on 22. May 2003 04:26 Easy E wrote: > First hand, AA on Kd5d8x flop. Do you HAVE to raise all-in here,with > two-flush out there, because you won't get any playback from your heads-up > opponent anyway? yeah, agree... the only way he would get play is if he was beat with two pair, or a set. i guess he just wanted to take the pot there, so he wouldn't get outdrawn on the flush. > I thought the way the dealers dealt the cards was interesting. Added a > little flair to the proceedings. the dealing was sweet.... it was very stylish, i wish i was good like that with cards ;) > Is Tony C Mike Mastauo (sp?) or Phil Hellumuth on steriods? what a talker. > I wonder if he'll shut up later, when he's not leading the table any more? And > the "pick any card!" thing was silly. for a while it worked for him, but he was too confident, and bullying > Tony G- it's always nice to flop a house with QQ after you raise preflop. > The poker gods are going to punish you for the yapping, I'll bet (hey, I have to > make up for my "Idol" loss) > From what I saw, I wonder if HOWARD L would care to comment on Tony G??? > ;) Well, if he gets to this anytime soon after the WSOP.... yes, poker gods... > Bad/weird Mike Sexton comment (I missed the earlier comment, i guess?): > "(Allen C) was doing 50 miles on the Interstate- now he's going 60!" .... > Huh? yeah, i remember that, that was weird > I see Tony's shutting up against Allen C- maybe because Allen's been > slapping him around a little? > Tony had an interesting fold of QQ to Chris's reraise with AK... Seemed > like a pretty tough laydown, though evidently Chris had a pretty tight image. I > was surprised, since it wasn't close to all-in, that Tony folded. i mean, allen had a tight image, but i still think the ladies require a call, at least to see the flop. > Chris vs. Claude heads-up. Claude had just taken a big pot, Chris folding > when Claude goes all-in, and Claude was slightly? the chip leader. Claude then > goes all-in with AK after Chris opened with 77. Chris made a heck of a call > here. Would YOU have? that was nuts, a good call, im pretty sure he knew it was an even money race > Now, Claude is now desperately low, still recovering from the last hand. > Why go all-in with T2off? Do you just go in with ANY hand here, or is a single > ten enough, when you're down 10:1 or whatever it was? I didn't know what the > blinds were, so I don't know how many rounds Claude had. he had 26,000 in chips, and the big blind was 20,000. he was forced. *********** ¡¢£ßøx | ||
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| Re: 5/21/03 WPT in Paris, stdioh, 22. May 2003 08:31 | ||
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| It is correct to make a big bet here because you don't want somebody to have odds to draw. You don't need to push all in if you have a big stack though...a pot sized bet would do just fine. | ||
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| Re: 5/21/03 WPT in Paris, MozMan, 22. May 2003 09:54 | ||
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| > (missed a lot here, didn't get back until near the end. What happened to > Allen C?) If I remember right, Allen busted out with a good all in-bet that turned out to be a bad-beat. He stood at the table while the next hand was played, refusing to leave, with a look of complete disbelief on his face. I wish I could remember the details of the hand... | ||
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| Re: 5/21/03 WPT in Paris, Big_Slick, 22. May 2003 12:48 | ||
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| I could be wrong, but I think he had A-Q vs. A-10. The other guy drew the 10 on either the turn or the river to beat him. | ||
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| Re: 5/21/03 WPT in Paris, fourstar2000, 22. May 2003 14:08 | ||
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| I think Claude went all in with K-3 offsuit. Allen made the right call by going all-in with his A-10 suited (Claude had him slightly outchipped). The flop brought rags and then the turn and river were both 3s. Allen looked like he was gonna be sick (I would too with that beat!). | ||
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