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Server Time: 3/15/2010 5:07:53 PM PACIFIC |
 Why is it that you never know that you are on tilt?, TKarrde, 21. May 2003 08:03 | ||
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| I've seen the phrase "on tilt" so many times but never really sure what it was except in theory. And not sure I still know, but... Last night decided to play at the BIG MONEY table ($1-$2). The tables are full so I do something that I know I shouldn't. I start a new table. Now I know that I am horrible heads up or at a short-handed table. And sure enough I am down $7 after two hands. Luckily for me the room is starting to fill. But not too far into it I have KJs. Flop comes 8K5. I bet. Get called. Turn is nothing. I bet. Get called. River is nothing. I bet. Get called. Opponent turns up 85. Didn't even see it coming. Why didn't he raise me. I would have folded. :) But after that hand my play just seemed to disintegrate. I played tight pre-flop but I just couldn't release hands post-flop. I lost $60 at that table. Worst performance of my two month career. Luckly I made $20 at a 50¢ table to take a bit of the sting out. Now I will go back to the 25¢ and 50¢ table to try and build it back slowly again. Although I was upset I took solace knowing that I have gotten $400 in the past two months just goofing off. And it is probably one of those things you need to experience to get better. I know this is probably peanuts to most, but it was my worst experience to date. I don't know if it was "tilt" or not. I always figured tilt came when you had a HUGE hand on a HUGE pot and got sucked out on the river. I did things I never would have done normally. So why did I do them and why did I not know to not do them at the time? TK | ||
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| Re: Why is it that you never know that you are on tilt?, shorn, 21. May 2003 08:12 | ||
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| I think it was the losing of the $7 that was the major part of your heading towrads tilt. The 85 hand was just icing on the cake. You sat down at a new table knowing your shorthanded game was weak, but you wanted to play so you did. You go down quickly and now you are mad at yourself for doing something YOU KNOW has a high chance of losing you $$. So, as the table fills up, you are still kicking yourself for doing it. Then your KJ hand comes. You keep betting and asking yourself what could he be calling with?? I clearly have top pair...he must be a fish. Then he shows you his cards on the river and stunned disbelief sets in. NO F'ing WAY!!!! OK, now you are gone... Tilt can come in many fashions...a night when you have multiple periods of folding 30-40 hands in a row, two or three river beats in a row, or like your situation, a bad decision in game selection that spirals a bit. The good news is that you have recognized what happened and my bet is that you won't start up a new table again. Unfortunately, the only way to learn this is through a loss experience and EVERYONE who plays poker at all seriously has learned in the same way (even guys like Roy Cooke and Mike Caro). Keep at it and try ypur best to avoid those situations next time and you will be in good shape. | ||
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| Re: Why is it that you never know that you are on tilt?, noiseboy, 21. May 2003 09:36 | ||
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| Short Handed play is HARD, since you often have to bet without much. I suggest you read up a lot on short handed before you attempt to play it again. Tight play will lose you money, because if you fold too much, your opponent makes money just by betting and raising EVERY time. | ||
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| Re: Why is it that you never know that you are on tilt?, stdioh, 21. May 2003 11:06 | ||
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| If you knew that you were on tilt you would be able to stop tilting...that's not entirely true. You'll become able to realize that you are on tilt. Most people, when they realize this, will stand up. The best pros may still go on tilt...they will just stop playing when they do. | ||
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| Re: Why is it that you never know that you are on tilt?, Wren, 21. May 2003 11:13 | ||
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| I think many people realize they are on tilt, but they don't care. They actually sort of embrace it. Kinda like depression. There's almost a sickening sense of comfort in being pissed off, in playing hands one shouldn't, in flinging chips into the middle of the table, fully expecting not to see them returned. "Woe is mee....I'm so unlucky....the poker gods hate me...I'm soooo unluckyyyyy...." Been there, done that. But don't hope to return :O) | ||
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| Re: Why is it that you never know that you are on tilt?, stdioh, 21. May 2003 14:03 | ||
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| Good point. There's some definite thanatos at work in tilt sometimes. There's either the "I want to get even," sort of tilter or the, "I want to get broke," sort of tilter. Unfortunately for them, the latter are more usually successful. | ||
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| Re: Why is it that you never know that you are on tilt?, timmer, 21. May 2003 20:03 | ||
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| Because you never ask yourself the critical question when you are on tilt. Of course that question is ... Am I on tilt? You should train yourself to ask this question before you make any action at the table and definitely when ever you feel an emotional rush. timmer | ||
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