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 Starting requirements for SB, Big_Slick, 17. May 2003 10:24 | ||
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| I throwing away too many chips in the SB. I'm using the "I'm getting the cards at a bargain" excuse and playing too much trash. Any advice? Thanks. | ||
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| Re: Starting requirements for SB, Swagman, 17. May 2003 20:37 | ||
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| Defending one's blind is been hotly debated lately more then usual. With the general census that one should defend it more strongly then generally accepted in the past. I think that it falty. I wouldnt see the flop with anything that I would muck if I didnt already have a bet. There's also the possibility of maybe compounding your mistake with crap cards and taking them too far becuase you in early position. | ||
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| Re: Starting requirements for SB, Player X, 17. May 2003 22:14 | ||
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| I assume you're talking about limping in after other callers and not defending it against a raise. First it depends on the size of the small blind. If it is one third of a bet you shouldn't be in very many hands, but if it is already a five person multiway pot, then you should limp in with a hand as weak as 67suited. If it half a bet, then you should call with a hand as weak as 78off (note:no multiway pot condition here). If it is two third of a bet, then any piece of trash will do. But the key here really is your postflop play not your preflop requirements. There will be many situations where you may flop a hand as strong as top pair, but your hand will be too weak to continue. Think about it this way. You called from the small blind because it was a bargain hoping to hit a big hand, if the hand you hit isn't that big, then just think of it the same as totally missing your hand, since it doesn't meet your preflop intentions. Using that as a rough general guideline should help you out. -X Writer www.pokerev.com | ||
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| Re: Starting requirements for SB, Swagman, 17. May 2003 23:11 | ||
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| Hmm. I think that is basically what i said without putting anyone on specific hands as you did. I hate placing or telling people what hands they should play exactly when and where. I leave that for pro's that are on tilt and need the extra revenue from a book about starting hands, late and early position hands, etc. etc. Speaking of which I thing it is all just a crutch anyhows, because you will learn over time what is goin to win and lose money for you, and this is not always found in a book. I hope no one actually plays that way. | ||
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| Re: Starting requirements for SB, Player X, 19. May 2003 08:18 | ||
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| I have to disagree with at least one point you made. Many otherwise good players don't learn that some of the hands they play in certain positions are long run losers for them. And as far as me repeating what you've already posted. I reread your post and this doesn't seem to be the case at all. -X Writer www.pokerev.com | ||
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| Re: Starting requirements for SB, JunglingS, 19. May 2003 07:39 | ||
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| I have to agree with Swagman regarding telling persons to play specific hands. Anyways, I find hands like 67s to play nicely against many loose fields. This goes back to the whole "the further from ideal play your opponents play, the more hands you can play". The caveat on this is to watch the flop, if it misses you, get out -- remember that this hand is an expedition, so unless you flop 4 to a straight or flush, a set or two pair, get out. And even when it hits, watch out for higher flushes, kicker trouble, and make sure you're not on the idiot end of your straight. Note, that when you make these hands some of your opponents are going to whine about, "How could you play that garbage". . . This has advertising benefits while winning pots. Time to talk about how lucky you are!! If you want to experiment with this kind of hand just remember that they can get you into real trouble, real fast. | ||
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| Re: Starting requirements for SB, Big_Slick, 19. May 2003 07:53 | ||
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| "idiot end of your straight." I like that term! Good stuff. Thanks | ||
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| Re: Starting requirements for SB, stdioh, 20. May 2003 10:32 | ||
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| I generally play about the same hands on the SB as I would play on the puck. You get half price and are totally out of position and I think the two more or less balance eachother out. | ||
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