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 Final table of tournament AT, noiseboy, 16. May 2003 10:04 | ||
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| Ok, so you made the final table of the tournament with a smallish medium stack, and are in the big blind. An aggressive, loose player limps in from early position, a player that you know nothing whatsoever about raises from middle position. Everyone else folds, you look down to see ATo, do you call the single raise? Fully aware that AT is a trap hand, I went ahead and called for just the one additional bet thinking that the raiser might be trying for a steal, putting the aggressive player on a drawing hand since he rarely limps with anything. I even thought about reraising, which would normally be wrong with AT, to drive out the limper and play heads up with the raiser. The flop comes A with two rags, the limper bets and the raiser raises; here I'm at the final table, so I almost have to give one of these players credit for a better kicker, don't I? I ended up folding the best hand. Turns out the normally aggressive player was slow playing KK's and the aggressor had A6o and was just making a play at the pot. Somehow I sensed this, because a little voice in my head kept telling me to come over top of him, but I didn't because of the EP player who I had no read on, it was just so unlike him to be passive that I didn't have any idea what he had, I thought he might be slow playing pocket AA's or something. Anyway, the result of the hand was that the wild player stayed all the way to the river and caught a third K on the river, which I thought was a horrible play, because it seemed obvious to me that the other player had an A; however, maybe they had come from the same table and the aggressive player thought the other guy was bluffing. Anyway, if I'd reraised the other guy with the A, that would have likely dropped the guy with KK's, and I would have won a big pot, of course that is a hindsight thing as I had no way to know for certain if my ten kicker was going to cut the mustard. Did I play too tight, too passive? Was I being a wimp just folding to let others bust out and hanging on for the money? Should I have been more trusting of my reads? Thanks! | ||
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| heh, did I burn everyone out on analyzing my hands?, noiseboy, 16. May 2003 12:10 | ||
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| I've posted so many! Anyway, don't worry, this will be the last until the next tournament I play. | ||
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| Re: Final table of tournament AT, Andrew Wells, 18. May 2003 15:53 | ||
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| ATo is not a hand I would want to commit a major portion of a smallish stack to. The only thing that matters when there is a preflop raise and you're in the blind is that you'll be out of position for the rest of the hand. That against one unknown player, and another playing atypically is enough to let it go from the start. Since you saw the flop, perhaps your best option if this would leave you with a full bet available in your stack on the turn, is to checkraise. Now that you have your aces and I assume potentially all-in by the showdown, you're committed. Yes you know that uncomfortable feeling taking aces with a mediocre kicker into a final table confrontation, and that should have been your preflop warning. | ||
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