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 Skill vs. Luck in Tournaments, noiseboy, 15. May 2003 10:05 | ||
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| A lot has been brough up recently about the skill factor vs. luck factor in poker. I couldn't put a percentage on it, but I think the skill factor much the dominant factor in tournaments. Anyway, many of you may remember my drunken post last week about splitting 1st place at a tournament last week. This week I played the same tournament again and came in fouth, not bad, although there were a couple of hands I might have played differently and got to the REAL money which was in the top three. When I have time, I will try to post some of those hands from memory and get some of your advice. Of course, I can't complain about being several hundred dollars richer. Anyway, I noticed that 3 of the 4 players who split 1st last week (including me) were at the final table this week. The fourth guy who I split with last week did not play this week, so that's 100% of the previous week's winners at the final table. The person who won this week was one of the ones I split with last week, the person who came in second was at the final table last week as well, he's one of those loose aggressive types who is very dangerous when he gets a lot of chips in front of him. There was only one person I knew of who was a complete newbie at the final table, and even though it was only his first tournament, he was very tight and aggressive and definitely deserved to be there. He was one of the first to bust out at the final table, but he played really amazing for a first timer. I also recognized a couple of players from the local 15-30 game, so it was overall a pretty strong table. Anyway, I gotta spend some serious time on my heads up and short handed play so I can take down the big prize! Thanks again UPF for I couldn't do it without you guys and all of your great advice! | ||
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| Re: Skill vs. Luck in Tournaments, NiceFella, 17. May 2003 20:02 | ||
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| I think a very skilled player (ie, in the top 5 or 10% of the players) can do much better in a tournament than in a ring game, because the buy-ins of dozens of players is harvested together into one pile in just a few hours. Imagine how long it would take to bust out 100 weaker players in a ring game! That being said, I think the skill vs. luck balance in a tournament is extremely sensitive to the rate at which the blinds increase. At my local casino's weekly tourney, the blinds rapidly increase to 10% of the average stack after just an hour. After just two hours, the average stack must go all-in to bet the flop. This is ludicrous, and requires you to win every hand you play. Yes, many of the same players are consistently at the final table, but not with the regularity your post describes. I'd love to play in a tournament with a reasonable (ie slow) blind structure, but most inexpensive tournaments are about bringing customers into the casino, not about having a good competition. So 100 players are reduced to 10 in just 2 or 3 hours, which I consider far too short a time to equalize the luck factor. The cardroom just wants to get those tourney players busted out and seated at a ring game paying the rake ASAP. NiceFella | ||
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