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 cold cards, ice, 5. May 2003 17:38 | ||
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| wondering what you pro's do to cure getting cold cards, and im not talking voodoo rituals here ;) just been getting bad cards, and have had 3 down sessions in a row, which has never really happened to me before. i want to blame it on the cold cards, but three sessions in a row is an indication that something is wrong with my game... im taking a few days off, rereading some material... and just hoping to get back on track soon. | ||
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| Re: cold cards, Laredo, 5. May 2003 19:29 | ||
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| I have played with players that have had cold cards for a few months...not just sessions. Good players at that...Each and every one of them has told me that they just ride it out and dont change their game...this is important. Dont change your game with bad cards...they just come and they will go... Bob. | ||
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| Re: cold cards, Mike Caro, 5. May 2003 20:06 | ||
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| on 5. May 2003 17:38 ice wrote: > wondering what you pro's do to cure getting cold cards, and im not talking > voodoo rituals here ;) > > just been getting bad cards, and have had 3 down sessions in a row, which has > never really happened to me before. i want to blame it on the cold cards, but > three sessions in a row is an indication that something is wrong with my game... > im taking a few days off, rereading some material... and just hoping to get back > on track soon. Hi, Ice -- I'm very sorry to hear you're running badly, and I know how frustrating that can be. The way I deal with bad runs is to just forget about them. I remind myself that I get paid (over the long run) to make the right decisions, not to win pots. That way, it's not my job to keep track of whether I'm getting good cards or bad cards. It's just my job to deal with each hand the best way possible. By the way, you might need to change your expectations somewhat, because even among the very top professionals, three bad sessions in a row happens fairly often. I don't know any long-term player it hasn't happened to, but it always feels like you're on a world-record bad streak when it does. Just keep making strong decisions and you'll be glad you did. Let the cards worry about distributing themselves fairly and you worry about playing them correctly. They have their purpose and you have yours. Straight Flushes, Mike Caro | ||
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| Re: cold cards, ice, 6. May 2003 21:14 | ||
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| Mike, thanks for responding, its very refreshing to know that three consecutive down sessions isn't an immidiate indication of failure ;) I'll try to take each hand at a time, fold the junk, and play smart when i get a few cards. its just tough to make the proper play and have someone get lucky again and again against you. thanks again everyone, for the responses *********** ¡¢£ßøx | ||
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| Re: cold cards, stdioh, 6. May 2003 08:21 | ||
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| Try taking a vacation from poker for a while. I'm on one now after a 120 big bet downswing and I'm feeling healthy and youthful - ready to take on the world. I know I'll be bringing a better game to the tables than I left there. | ||
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| Re: cold cards, Noo Yawk, 6. May 2003 08:22 | ||
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| on 5. May 2003 17:38 ice wrote: > wondering what you pro's do to cure getting cold cards, and im not talking > voodoo rituals here ;) > Pro's get the opportunity to play everyday, and therefore often end up leaving a session a loser. As a matter of fact, learning how to leave when losing is the sign of a pro. But losing for 5 days in a row over a week is a lot different than a player that plays once a week and loses 5 sessions in a row over a five week period. Most players that play weekly as compared to daily look so forward to the day they get to play, that they often end up chasing losses or giving back wins when their fluctuations are high early in a session. Staying when there is money on the table and you are a favorite is fine. Staying when you are in a tough game with the only hope of getting some money is catching strong hands and good players catching strong second best hands is suicide. The first situation has more dependance on skill, and the second one has more dependance on luck. One of the things you can do is play shorter sessions and take home a small win to gain back your confidence. > just been getting bad cards, and have had 3 down sessions in a row, which has > never really happened to me before. i want to blame it on the cold cards, but > three sessions in a row is an indication that something is wrong with my game... > im taking a few days off, rereading some material... and just hoping to get back > on track soon. You shoud start keeping accurate records of your play, and that will help you best determine whether or not it's the cards or some leaks in your game. Even the most solid players discover leaks. Everytime you miss a bet on the river, call a raise when you should fold, fold to one bet on the river when the pot is large, etc adds up to ALOT of money. BTW, losing 3 in a row is nothing. Fix the leaks, and contain your losses. The wins will make up the difference. Good luck -NY | ||
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| Curing a cold = mom's chicken soup, Easy E, 6. May 2003 08:28 | ||
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| Eat/drink enough of it, and the repeated trips to the loo will break up the spell.... mainly because you''ll miss BEAUCOUP hands and eventually get out of the streak | ||
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| Re: cold cards, Paul Stine, 6. May 2003 21:55 | ||
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| on 5. May 2003 17:38 ice wrote: > wondering what you pro's do to cure getting cold cards, and im not talking > voodoo rituals here ;) > > just been getting bad cards, and have had 3 down sessions in a row, which has > never really happened to me before. i want to blame it on the cold cards, but > three sessions in a row is an indication that something is wrong with my game... > im taking a few days off, rereading some material... and just hoping to get back > on track soon. I'm not a pro and, unlike John Corbin (in Lucky on the FX network), I don't even play one on TV. As Mike Caro and the other have said, bad runs happen. Instead of feeling bummed about your bad runs (and I seem to be one one right now) use them as an opportunity to tune-up your game, rid yourself of bad habits and make yourself a better player. I feel there is really no other way to ride out a bad run than to play just as often you normally would. Sure, your bankroll might be taking a hit, but you should either already be playing with sufficient bankroll to survive your downturn in results or enough backup money resources to allow you to continue playing (or, if your lack of funds keeps you from playing the break can't hurt.*) The thing to remember when playing (whether during a good run or a bad run) is that you get paid to make the right decisions. Results are outcomes and you cannot influence the turn of the cards with wishing, hoping, sweating, swearing, praying, pleading cajoling or coaching. You do, however, control how you react to those cards. Those are your decisions. I recently attended a workshop about planning and deploying some new software products. The instructor, Eric Stralh, gave as his number one tip/advise concerning corporate or company policies and politics in the corportate/company structure. That advise had three parts: 1.) It is what it is (and it is highly unlikely that you can change it.) 2.) Accept it (because you probably can't change it.). 3.) Get over it and move on. The same can be said about bad runs: 1.) they happen (and you can't change that) 2.) accept it 3.) get over your bad results and move on by playing and making your best decisions all the time. Review your playing sessions and ask yourself if you made the best decision given the information you had at the time. Did you pay off that player that checked and called, heads up and finally bet out when the third suited card hit the board? You knew you were beaten, but you had an ego to protect. I know, I have done it and I still do it, occasionally, to this day, especially when the results, the outcomes, are not going my way. I might add, that three losing sessions are not anywhere near the record for running bad. Some players, pro player, very good players, can talk about running bad for a year or more. I know that at one point I didn't book a winner, in a weekly game, for more that four months. In fact it got to the point where people would call me down and, after drawing out, explain that they would have done it except for the simple reason that I had been running so poorly. (I am talking about getting it heads up, flopping a set of aces, and having the player draw to a runner runner straight.) Talk about an uppercut to the poker ego! On the other hand, it tells me that they were basing their play on *my* results. How much better can it get? They are making bad decisions based on my results. And, In the long run, don't we make the majority of our money on our opponents' mistakes? Imagine how much better we all would play if we got as big an emotional boost out of making the right decision as we do out of raking the pot? Imagine saying, "Hey, I just made a laydown when the river card turned my beautiful hand into a loser. Woo hoo!" instead of "That lousy S.O.B. just drew two cards out of three possible to beat me!" (Of course, he bet into me after calling all the way and I knew was beaten, but I *had* to call.) Believe me, if everyone played in this way the only winner would be the house. I know I have droned on way too long. Paul Stine College Station, TX * - Mike Caro has suggested that if you have a small bakroll and a place from which to replenish it, protecting your bankroll is not as important as if it wasn't and you didn't, but that is another dicussion. | ||
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