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Starting Hands, PUPA, 2. May 2003 15:13
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REALLY SORRY STDIOH I deleted my questions by an accident.Please answer again.What are marginal hands?What are weak marginal hands?What are strong marginal hands?What are premium hands?This is my first time using this site.HELP!
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Re: Starting Hands, stdioh, 5. May 2003 09:19
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Sure...I was just joshing you...I don't mind sharing, but I did go home for the weekend right after my last post.

OK. A marginal hand is something that has either a very small amount of equity or a very small amount of loss. Most beginners don't understand the idea of a truely bad hand and think that something like K9o is marginal, when in fact it is a hand that is almost impossible to make money with.

I consider something like 45s to be a marginal hand in early position. It is the sort of thing that if you play it and get enough people in and then hit the hand you can make money, but if you don't get enough in you haven't justified drawing to it. Where this can be profitable is when you are able to outplay your opponents on the flop and you have semibluffing in your arsenal among with other little tricks. I would say that, from what I have read, Roy Cooke is the master of the marginal hands. He very frequently talks, in his CardPlayer articles, about hands that normally can't be played, but how he squeezes a little juice from them.

As a beginner though, it is important to play really tight. Read Lee Jones and play according to that. Fold hands like KJo when you are under the gun and even when you are playing the puck, don't play your A9o.

Another thing to do with marginal hands is raising them for steals or for heads up play. A hand like A9o plays really well if you can get it heads up. So if you're at a fairly tight table and you are folded to with your A9o in middle position, a limp is a really bad idea, but a raise might be ok. Here you could end up stealing the blinds or getting a caller...possibly the big blind defending. Now you should be able to fold somebody odd an AT or AJ and possibly off an AQ if they are very tight. If you hit your ace and somebody did come in with AQ they will be afraid to agress you in the event that you would be holding AK. You have a decent chance of winning this hand heads up, but more important you have the psychological advantage in being the preflop raiser. On a ragged flop you can represent an overpair, etc. Now, where to be wary is if you are reraised for isolation. Now you are almost certain to be up against a dominating hand, so if the flop doen't massively hit your hand you'll want to get out of there...in fact you might want to fold on the preflop to a reraise, except that this will show a lot of weakness and probably cause the table to start to target you.

There could be a lot of talk over which hands are marginal in which position, but the best way to figure out that is to look at a chart of which hands can be played in which position. The hands that are played in position X, but not in position X-1 would be marginal hands to play in X-1.
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