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 River, Michael C Yenzer, 2. May 2003 13:48 | ||
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| In order to make a long term profit,what percentage of the hands should a player win after he/she calls the river bet? | ||
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| Re: River, Schuster, 2. May 2003 13:58 | ||
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| Depends on the amount in the pot. If there's 10 big bets in the pot, you only need to win 1 in 10 on your call. | ||
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| Re: River, stdioh, 2. May 2003 14:11 | ||
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| The river bet has little to do with it. What seperates the sheep from the goats is the number of hands you take to the flop, to the turn, and to the river. The number of hands that you call on the river with depend on who your opponents are and how good your reads are. | ||
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| Re: River, 4 POKER, 3. May 2003 21:43 | ||
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| I agree with studioh, here. You can make ten calls in a row on the river, win every single hand and still not be able to show a profit or be an overall winning player. Let's say you play for 8 hours one day. You're stuck a little bit but nothing serious. Along the course of your session you lose 4 key hands. All four pots were huge. Capped betting before the flop and capped betting on the flop, turn, and river. The game was $3-6 hold-em and you're now stuck $350. Then, you find yourself involved in 10 hands, one right after the other,(just giving examples here). You play each hand out to the river, win all 10, but there wasn't much betting going on, and many of those hands were heads up. Let's say you net $ 300 on those ten hands. You're still losing $50. It's NOT about how many times your RIVER BET call is correct--and those percentages will never give you an accurate figure to whether your making a long term profit or not. Making a profit from poker has to do with, A. Making the CORRECT decisions during the course of one's hand, pre-flop, flop, turn, and river. (ie) MAXIMIZING on the hands that you do win (and that doesn't mean that you have to be raising every time, either. You can sometimes use the check and call form of betting to extract extra bets out of a player as well). Making the correct $$ calls pre-flop, understanding the importance of Position Play, and having a good "read" on your opponent. ... And B. MINIMIZING your losses on the hands that you don't win, and saving bets pre-flop with hands that are a losing proposition. (ie), saving bets when you know you are beat. Not making crying calls at the river. Calling three bets cold pre-flop with A-6 suited. Your pre-flop play is very important, and if you're a new player, it is far more important than the river play. All of those saved bets are profit, too, and you must understand that and realize that if you expect to show a long term profit from poker. A SAVED BET IS MONEY EARNED. 4 POKER | ||
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