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 would you pick on a player who did this?, jdsalinger, 2. May 2003 02:22 | ||
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| so I'm sitting in the SB of a 1-2 NL game get dealt J4s. Only the BB and UTG are in. So I throw in the 50 cents. The BB raises for 1 more. UTG calls and I fold. Is this giving away too much info? | ||
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| Re: would you pick on a player who did this?, 4 POKER, 2. May 2003 02:48 | ||
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| That's a good question. If it were limit hold-em, I might be more apt to try and bluff you on future hands, being that you folded after calling the bet in the first place. However, in PL and in NL, players often limp in cheaply if they can but then when it's raised they throw their hand away. That is part of the game. Noone wants to commit too many of their chips if the situation doesn't warrant it. If you sense that after making that fold that some player was trying to use that against you, then you can now change up your betting and raising strategies as well. It's very important how we think others may be perceiving us. You can use that to your advantage. If he thinks that every time you limp in, you are week, than make sure you limp in with monster holdings as well. I would NOT pick on a player who did that in a NL game. But like I said... NL VS. LIMIT... Two different games. There's nothing wrong in folding... You can't lose much if you fold pre-flop, right? You were just waiting for a better spot, that's what I think... 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: would you pick on a player who did this?, stdioh, 2. May 2003 07:58 | ||
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| You really shouldn't be calling here at all. You don't have enough people in the hand to pay you off if you make your flush and you don't have a high enough flush if you do to be sure that somebody doesn't have a better one or make a draw to a better one. Yeah, the BB has a random hand, but the UTG limper could have you dominated. I would just let the BB deal with this one heads up. That said, when the BB raised you had the same pot odds to call here, but more information. Thus there are reasonable places where you would call half a bet with no information about the BB, but then fold to the same proposition knowing that the BB has a raising hand. For instance, if you had a hand like JQo a call is totally reasonable in the small blind with one UTG limper, but after a BB raise it looks like real trouble and throwing it away wouldn't be "wrong" ... I don't think I would pick on you unless you were doing that sort of thing frequently. | ||
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| Re: would you pick on a player who did this?, mroban, 2. May 2003 13:46 | ||
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| I personally don't think so and would have done the same thing. Your odds were correct (probably) to call the first one but not the second. Thats the information I would be getting back as one of your opponents. So you are a guy that calculate pot odds. Of course, if you called it for kicks I might (erroneously) rate you a loose fish and subsequently get my butt kicked for not respecting your raises. | ||
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