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 good day at the card room..... I think? (long), mdf, 1. May 2003 06:42 | ||
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| I' m a newbie. I've read Carson, Jones and Malmouth and Salanksy's Adv book. The pages are falling out of my Jones book and S&M's is not much better. I've been playing for two months online more hours than I care to divulge. I do okay. I am heading to Las Vegas in June and want to play a little poker, just because I can and it's LAS VEGAS for heaven's sake. So since I have never handled a chip, been in a card room or played poker where I got to touch the cards, I had a friend take me to our local card room. I considered wearing my large angel fish earrings but decided that I probably did not need to advertise. She advised me not to play $2-$4 because "they will bleed you dry". So I found myself at a $3-$6 table. I kissed my $100 goodbye and very nice man brought me over some chips. I try to figure out where I am supposed to put them so I don't knock them over, remember I have never done anything remotely like this. So the game starts and the sweet familarity of playing hold em takes over and some of my nerves are soothed. My friend gets crushed in the first hour and asks if I would mind if she went and played at her usual higher limit table. I say sure. After all nobody has yelled at me in the last hour so I think things are going swimmingly. I am not down and am probably up a little. I am not playing my best game because I am enjoying the other stuff, people bringing me drinks, announcements, chips to play with and stack, and last but not least, the nine other people at the table to watch. Being a rather goal oriented person I dedide that a successful day for me will be if I learn to shuffle my chips. After all isn't table image everything? OBSERVATION: Your table image at the table you learn to shuffle your chips on will not be good. After a few pitiful attempts which caused havoc with my chips, the dealer took pity on me and said "You have to push down". After spending more time (you got it, than I care to divluge) pushing down on the chips, my chair, and just about anything else I could think of, a young man sitting across from me who looked old enough to be my 17 yr old son, said "push down on the the table". Who knew the table was padded? (Imagine someone trying to read my tells). I wasn't paying attention (there's news) and ended up in a hand in early position with an A 9 offsuit. I took the pot but had to show my cards. An older gentleman inquired as to whether I played the A 9 offsuit often and if I had much success with it. My first thought was to respond "I only play it when it wins", but instead said "It depends on my position and the table composition". Let's analyze this. I played it out of position and at a table where folks can play better than I can (they can shuffle their chips after all). I bet that had him scratching his head. (NOTE TO SELF: Think up polite but firm things to say when people critize your play. In my case I may have to think up quite a few). A couple hours into this adventure a very nice woman sits down next to me and buys in for $100.00. The table is composed of good solid players, not too agressive and no maniacs. (We had busted the one maniac who had been there about an hour earlier, we were all sorry to see him go). We engage in a little chit chat and she says that she has just moved back from Las Vegas. I inquire as to nice card rooms and she replies that she played mostly at the Mirage. (NOTE TO SELF: When someone tells you they have just moved back from LV, bang your head twice on the rail and exucse yourself from the table permanently, you can always say you have a headache). All the dealers knew her name. (NOTE TO SELF: If all the dealers speak to the person on a first name basis with incredible respect, GET THE HECK OUT. Why don't the books talk about dealer tells?) This woman then proceeds to crush the table. I mean we have people getting up muttering, pacing, saying not such kind things not necessarily under their breath, folks busting, rebuying and busting. After four hours I think I counted $600.00 in chips in front of her. I was fascinated. It was what you would imagine the Salansky and Malmouth video would look like. Ocassionaly she showed me what she was holding if I was out of the pot. She called for a set up and kindly explained what that was and why one would want to do it. She explained that if a player shows his cards to the folks next to him and them mucks them I can ask to see them too. (I had just layed down a hand after the river card had been dealt in a head's up situation). So how did I do you ask? I bought in for $100 and I used my chips for tips for both dealers and wait staff. I cashed out with $91.00, eleven hours later. I was much smarter and the best part.... able to shuffle my chips. A better nine dollars I could not have spent. Mary | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), shorn, 1. May 2003 06:49 | ||
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| That was a GREAT post! The part about dealer tells and banging your head on the rail had me laughing out loud (and I am at work!). Great first experience at the casino. If you only lost $9 and you used chips for tokes and food, then you beat the game by a lot more than you might think. Assuming you played 40 hands an hour, you contributed $16/hour in blinds, so that is $176 total that you had to make up. I always try to think like that when I leave a game even or down just a bit. Good luck in Vegas and have fun. Check out Bellagio's poker room too. | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), stdioh, 1. May 2003 08:14 | ||
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| I'm glad to hear that you had a positive experience in the cardroom your first day out. One thing I will note though. There are two types of regulars, pros and fish. There are fish who play every day and never get better. Everybody in the card room chats with the pleasant fish and the dealers know them by name. And everybody gets mad when they have a good day :) That said, sounds like this woman was a decent player. Just remember that if she was a real pro, she probably wouldn't be sitting at the 3-6. Another thing - rereading is great, but if you've read those books to death, expand your horizons. Pick up Sklansky's advanced book or something else. | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), TKarrde, 1. May 2003 08:45 | ||
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| That is funny. As my initial reaction was "If she is that good why is she at the $3-$6?" Great post, Mary. Sounds sad but I hope to do as well as you. I can never make it to a B&M casino (not enough time, too far away). But with the high rake, tips, etc. I'm not sure I wanna go back. LOL But the good/bad news is they will be building a casino about 20 miles from my house. Do I secure the divorce attorney now? TK | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), stdioh, 1. May 2003 08:48 | ||
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| Teach your wife poker and get her to "take an active interest" in your hobby. Make her feel really guilty if she doesn't. Play her heads up at home and paddle her badly. Convince her that you are a good good poker player. Then when she wants some alone time, get her to send you to the casino. | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), TKarrde, 1. May 2003 09:39 | ||
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| LOL... that is great!! I've actually convinced her that online poker is GOOD. 1) I risk less money. 2) Don't nag her to go to the boat with the guys. 3) Don't come home at 4am after telling her it would be no later than 1am. 4) I'm around the house if she needs me for something. (opening jars, taking emotional abuse for not putting the toliet seat down, playing audience to the new outfits she bought) That with the fact that I have been making money (as small as it is) and no longer have my money at risk. I just don't see how anyone can play such long hours ... B&M or online. My first time on-line I played 5 hours because it was new. But when you hear about people playing 10+ hour sessions. I can understand where the saying "leather ass" came from. TK | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), Schuster, 1. May 2003 10:14 | ||
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| I agree about online games, I can never sit much longer than 3 hours without some buggy computer eyes. However, I could sit in a home game forever. It's not anything crazy if our games last 12 hours or more. I've never been to a casino, but there's something so great about having the cards in front of you, handling the chips, and being able to observe the people and not just their actions. I'm looking forward to my first casino experience for sure, whenever that may be. Lee | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), stdioh, 1. May 2003 11:18 | ||
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| I have brought toilet seat equality to my household. Luckily, the lovely wren holds a mathematics degree and a result is highly logical. If your wife is highly logical, she cannot argue with the argument, "Do you like operating the toilet seat? No person should have to operate a toilet seat more than once per visit to the bathroom." | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), TKarrde, 1. May 2003 11:26 | ||
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| Highly logical woman?? Indeed Wren is lovely!!! | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), Wren, 1. May 2003 11:51 | ||
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| *blush* | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), stdioh, 1. May 2003 11:58 | ||
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| *GRIN* | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), TKarrde, 1. May 2003 13:31 | ||
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| You guys are neat!! Are you married or just a couple? Sorry being nosy? How old? Well anyway I just wanted to get on here to make my point. I was talking to my wife who had the day off today. It was storming really bad and she said she could close the garage door because she couldn't find the clicker. I said "did you look on the floor below the shelf where we keep it?" "oh." :-) | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), TKarrde, 1. May 2003 13:32 | ||
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| Dang.. wish there was an edit function!!! (hint hint) As that should have been "my wife could not close the garage door" | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), stdioh, 1. May 2003 15:18 | ||
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| There is an edit function...click on the pencil to the right of your post. | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), Wren, 1. May 2003 14:08 | ||
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| We're both 24, but Stdio's turning 25 tomorrow! *\o/*\o/* Hence the weekend of drunken debauchery that he alluded to in another post :O) We got together back in the Fall. We actually met at the poker table late last Spring. I initially hated him because he put the WORST of bad beats on me, in a no limit game to boot, but that's another story (he's gonna kick my arse for bringing this one up! hehehe) | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), TKarrde, 1. May 2003 14:14 | ||
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| Would love to hear the "other story" sometime!! Romance at the poker table? You guys need to write an article for Player Magazine. (Maybe I'll even shell out the $$$$ for a subscription.) TK | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), stdioh, 1. May 2003 15:21 | ||
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| Yep, we're a couple and we live together and we fall into that pigeonhole that contains so many couples - I guess you could say that we are "engaged to be engaged" whatever that means. | ||
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| Re: good day at the card room..... I think? (long), flintsword, 1. May 2003 21:04 | ||
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| mdf, you have a talent for words and think you should seriously take a notebook with you to Las Vegas. Take notes and then write about your trip in the same humerous way. Back home, hound every newspaper editor with the city until they print it. Good humour should never be wasted. Mail it to Cardplayer while you are at it. | ||
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