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 Stud/8 premium hands continue, jake-free, 28. Apr 2003 13:07 | ||
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| I used a point count method to rank the alwayes playable hands,call them :"Premium Hands" Low point count: A2=20 ,A3=15, A4=10, A5=5, 23=10, 24=5, 25=5, 34=5, 35=5, 45=5 All other=no poits High point count: A=4, K=2 Pairs: AA=30, KK=13, QQ=12, JJ=11, TT=10, 99=9, 88=8,77=7, 66=6, 55=5 44=4, 33=3, 22=2. Straight combination=2,(each combination counts separately) Flush combination: A=1O, (K down to 2=4 points) The list below ignors the flush combinations. AA2 (82 points) AA3 AAA AA4 A23 (58 points) AA5 A24 A25 A34 AA6 AA7 AA8 A35 A45 A26 A27 234 235 A36 A37 245 345 (21points) A46 888 A47 236 777 A56 A57 246 256 346 356 456 347 357 367 457 467 567 458s 468s 478s 568s 578s 678s (8 points) comments? | ||
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| Re: Stud/8 premium hands continue, stdioh, 28. Apr 2003 13:37 | ||
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| I think that it is a pretty good guideline, but certainly not definitive. For starters, I'll take AAA over AA2 15 ways to breakfast in a stud8 game. When you start with rolled up aces, your chances of not getting the big half of the pot are tiny and you have a decent chance of scooping too (generally via no low). With AA2 you have a decent shot at the high and a decent shot at the low, but nothing to write home about. Also, AA2's value is highly dependant on which card is your door in terms of profit that it can yield, as are all the hands listed. I'd take [AA]6 over [A2]A in a stud8 game for sure. For that matter, rolled up trips of any kind are just far more premium than you show. [KK]K doesn't even appear on your chart and it is a *monster* in a stud8 game - certainly vastly superior to [88]8 which does show up there. Leaving out the suitedness also makes this table less useful than it could be. A low three straightflush is about as good as you could hope for...certainly much better than AA2, but the disparity between [34]5 suited and [45]3 rainbow is enormous. As well, with suitedness, having 2 starting cards suited is relatively worthless - maybe worth *something* if one is an ace or king, but I would assign good points for 3 suited cards and almost none for 2 suited cards. Perhaps 10 points for a 3-flush and 1 point for a 2-flush that includes an ace or king. Likewise, 2 cards of a straight means just about nothing, but 3-straights are excellend and a 3-straight with a single gap has value as well. So all in all, I think that it is a good start, but I think it would require a lot of tweaking to get a good aproximation of true hand values. Though don't take my criticism too harshly either - I may be off base as stud8 isn't my primary poker interest. | ||
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| Re: Stud/8 premium hands continue, TKarrde, 28. Apr 2003 14:40 | ||
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| Whoa... I think this why my simple mind has stayed away from "low" games. Throw in the "only two cards" from Omaha and my brain would melt like colby jack on a hot tamale. TK | ||
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