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 Handling Chips, Alfonse, 25. Apr 2003 11:36 | ||
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| Can anyone offer advice on the best way of shuffling chips with one hand? I don't seem to have the proper technique and want to set a good table image. Also- is there any correlation between how well one manipulates chips at the table (i.e. spinning them around their fingers and the like) and how well one plays? | ||
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| Re: Handling Chips, Schuster, 25. Apr 2003 12:02 | ||
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| I don't see any correlation between being able to handle chips well and being a good player. I'm a hell of a good chip handler but a mediocre at best card player! To two stacks of chips together, start off with about 6 chips total. You can add more once you get the feel of it. Place your thumb and pointer finger on the outside of the left stack, and your ring and pinky finger on the outside of the right stack (I'm assuming you use your right hand, just inverse left and right if you're using your left hand). Apply slight pressure towards the center, and with your middle finger, lift up the bottom of the stacks. Lighten the pressure a little and the chips will just fall together. Good luck! Lee | ||
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| Re: Handling Chips, shorn, 25. Apr 2003 12:27 | ||
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| I think you would be better off not being so good at it because that would help you hide the fact that you know what you are doing. You certainly don't want the table image of being a tight aggressive player who knows the book and plays well. That may kill action from opponents that are paying attention. | ||
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| Re: Handling Chips, Schuster, 25. Apr 2003 13:51 | ||
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| On the other hand, if you're playing against mostly decent players, wouldn't that image help to intimidate them? I think there is definately a time that this skill comes in handy! | ||
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| Re: Handling Chips, ice, 25. Apr 2003 14:33 | ||
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| i think how you handle chips is pretty irrelevant to table image... yeah, it show's you spent a lot of time at the table, but if you want to intimidate people by handling your chips.... cup your hands, place the base of your palms together, push all your chips to the middle, and say your all in ;) i might just say that, because im a crappy chip handler ;) *********** ¡¢£ßøx | ||
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| Re: Handling Chips, NiceFella, 26. Apr 2003 00:33 | ||
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| I urge you not to learn this "skill" ! On one very long, uneventful day of mucking 92o, I decided to learn the craft of chip riffling. I got some pointers from the other players and set to practicing. After a few days I had it down, and after a week I was a "pro". Now I can't stop doing it. I'll look down during a hand and notice I'm riffling. I never actually decide to riffle, I just always discover that I'm doing it. I'm sure it's a tell. One thing I'm sure of is that it's horribly painful in my arm and shoulder. I spend about 50 hours a week playing poker, and about 30 hours of that time is probably spent riffling. I'm a connoisseur of riffling chips. Some card rooms have slicker chips that riffle more easily. My right arm gets so sore from subconsciously riffling chips that I learned to do it left-handed. All I managed to do was make *both* arms sore. It's insane. I can't stop. It's debiltatingly paingful. It annoys other players. It annoys me. Stop the madness. Save yourself. This post is only half in jest. NiceFella | ||
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| Re: Riffling Chips, flintsword, 26. Apr 2003 12:00 | ||
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| There are a couple of "neat" chip riffling gif files floating around the internet that you can copy to your computer. I have one on my laptop. Skill or miss-spent youth (I think someone on the forum described chip riffling as such a few months ago ...)? I like Nicefella's answer! I wonder if NOT being able to riffle chips properly is a better skill to develop, since it seems to scream FISH! Until your opponents get to know you. | ||
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| Re: Handling Chips, Swagman, 27. Apr 2003 19:30 | ||
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| nicefella answer is the right one. I have never equated rifling chips to being a good player, but more I look at a player that rifles all the time as a obsessive compulsive behavior. Which describes gambling in general. So don't start it up, if you haven't already. As far as table image. No dark shades plz. And no Napoleon complexes either. You want a good image then smile sometimes, laugh, and make conversation to the person to the right are left of you if there in the mood to talk. But don't come across as a friendly putz either, and make sure your paying attention to the action. But above all else please don't get into that chip rifling, sunglassed, grim faced wannabe look. I don't know if I can take another one of them at a table. | ||
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| Re: Handling Chips, stdioh, 28. Apr 2003 10:31 | ||
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| First off, your ability to manipulate chips comes from time spent, not from ability at poker. There are a lot of fish who can work magic with their cheques. That said, here's what you do: Make two equal stacks (start with 2 chips each stack and get larger as you practice). Place your thumb and index finger on the side of one chip stack and your ring and pinky fingers symetrically on the other stack. Hold firmly so that if they two stacks were one object you could just pick it up like this. Squeeze the stacks together and as you do, use your unoccupied middle finger to lift the middle of the stacks. Squeeze them ever closer and they should just "cascade" down when they get to a high enough angle of incidence. The larger the stacks, the closer you need to squeeze them. But reall, it isn't worth the effort of learning. | ||
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| Re: Handling Chips, Risky Business, 29. Apr 2003 12:53 | ||
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| I can't believe that this has actually continued this far. You might as well start talking about how to build a poker table again. "Not Quite Poker" (Yes, I see the irony in my post.) p.s. It's a tell, don't start it. I played in a game this weekend and the guy bounced his leg with a hand, and stopped when bluffing. I can imagine he'd do the same thing with "chip riffling". Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go buy my new set of shades for my next game with Swagman | ||
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| Re: Handling Chips, Andrew Wells, 29. Apr 2003 13:07 | ||
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| Sometimes you can see a noticeable change in the shuffle rhythm when the flop comes down. I haven't yet seen a chip shuffler that can avoid this reaction when the flop is sweet for their hand. This is about as good a tell as a glance at their stack is. Keep shuffling please, and don't worry about early arthritis. | ||
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| Re: Handling Chips: a tell, flintsword, 29. Apr 2003 22:07 | ||
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| on 29. Apr 2003 13:07 Andrew Wells wrote: > Sometimes you can see a noticeable change in the shuffle rhythm when the flop comes down. I > haven't yet seen a chip shuffler that can avoid this reaction when the flop is sweet for their > hand. This is about as good a tell as a glance at their stack is. Keep shuffling please, and > don't worry about early arthritis. I had not considered any change of rhythm in riffles during the flop as a potential tell. Thank you Andrew for another golden nugget of info I will look for in the next month or so. There are always a few sunglassed, chip-riffling poker weasels at the table, so lots of opportunity to check this out. flintsword | ||
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| Re: Handling Chips, 4 POKER, 30. Apr 2003 04:01 | ||
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| on 28. Apr 2003 10:31 stdioh wrote: > First off, your ability to manipulate chips comes from time spent, not from ability > at poker. There are a lot of fish who can work magic with their cheques. > > That said, here's what you do: > > Make two equal stacks (start with 2 chips each stack and get larger as you > practice). Place your thumb and index finger on the side of one chip stack and your > ring and pinky fingers symetrically on the other stack. Hold firmly so that if they > two stacks were one object you could just pick it up like this. Squeeze the stacks > together and as you do, use your unoccupied middle finger to lift the middle of the > stacks. Squeeze them ever closer and they should just "cascade" down when they get to > a high enough angle of incidence. The larger the stacks, the closer you need to > squeeze them. > > But reall, it isn't worth the effort of learning. You are right on the money with this one one Studioh. I'm glad you stressed that point as to not think that 'just because someone can shuffle the chips doesn't necessarily mean that they are a good player". Some mannorisms are tells where others are not, and to be quite frank about it... the real good players can switch there reactions on the drop of a dime if they think you are trying to pick up on something. So don't put too much merit in something that you think might be a tell, it can backfire on you, trust me. 4 POKER | ||
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