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 Reading a new tourney table, Risky Business, 22. Apr 2003 08:28 | ||
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| Since I can't watch everyone from the beginning, should I start on my right or left? I've convinced myself of both positions. Haven't seen anything like this posted (at least since I've been on) | ||
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| Re: Reading a new tourney table, Nathaniel Brous, 22. Apr 2003 10:12 | ||
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| on 22. Apr 2003 08:28 Risky Business wrote: > Since I can't watch everyone from the beginning, should I start on my right or left? I've convinced myself of both positions. Haven't seen anything like this posted (at least since I've been on) I could be confused as to what you are talking about, but what the hey. Look left. You gain more pertinent information by looking at those who have to act after you. - Nathaniel Brous | ||
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| Mr. Caro: Tells at a New table?, Risky Business, 22. Apr 2003 11:44 | ||
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| That is what I was after N Brous. Which side of me is more important to get a hold of, my left or my right? on 22. Apr 2003 10:12 Nathaniel Brous wrote: > on 22. Apr 2003 08:28 Risky Business wrote: > > Since I can't watch everyone from the beginning, should I start on my right or > left? I've convinced myself of both positions. Haven't seen anything like this posted > (at least since I've been on) > > I could be confused as to what you are talking about, but what the hey. Look left. > You gain more pertinent information by looking at those who have to act after you. - > Nathaniel Brous | ||
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| Re: Mr. Caro: Tells at a New table?, stdioh, 22. Apr 2003 11:52 | ||
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| > That is what I was after N Brous. > > Which side of me is more important to get a hold of, my left or my right? Indeed, you need to look at both, but those yet to act are much more important to observe. For instance, let us assume that you are holding AJo, a tenuous hand to cold call with. The gap concept dictates that there are hands you can yourself raise with, but that you cannot call a raise with and AJo is the prime example. There are a lot of hands that it is better than and few that it is worse than - it is good raising material - BUT, there are few raising hands that it beats. Likewise, there are few hands that can cold call a raise that it can beat. So let us say that Maniac Mike is sitting to your right and raises preflop. You look down at AJo and decide that it is worth isolating Maniac Mike as he likes to raise all kinds of crap preflop -> you're about to three-bet to get yourself heads up with a hand that may very well be dominated by your ace jack. If it was Stoney McRocks who raised you'd certainly be mucking that hand. Then out of the corner of your eye, you see Dedicated Dick, the newbie who has read all the books, but not had much experience, jumping out of his seat. He's breathing hard and vibrating and holding chips in his hand. Looks like he's on aces and is ready to reraise himself. Even if he's just going to call, he's definitely got you beat. You're read of Maniac Mike is important, but seeing that your raise will be called by Dick is much more important. You throw away your AJo and let Dick have at Mike. It can best be summed up this way. Watch a final table at the WSOP and you'll see that nobody even looks at his cards until it is his turn to act, because they don't want to give off tells about what their action will be. It is important to see both ahead of you and behind, but it is those yet to act which can threaten you the most. | ||
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| Re: Mr. Caro: Tells at a New table?, Nathaniel Brous, 22. Apr 2003 12:18 | ||
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| on 22. Apr 2003 11:52 stdioh wrote: > It can best be summed up this way. Watch a final table at the WSOP and you'll see that nobody even looks at his cards until it is his turn to act, because they don't want to give off tells about what their action will be. It is important to see both ahead of you and behind, but it is those yet to act which can threaten you the most. Hey stdioh. Again I gave the cliff notes version. So to answer Risky's question, it's left right? lol - Nathaniel Brous | ||
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| Re: Mr. Caro: Tells at a New table?, Paul Stine, 22. Apr 2003 13:52 | ||
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| on 22. Apr 2003 12:18 Nathaniel Brous wrote: > on 22. Apr 2003 11:52 stdioh wrote: > > It can best be summed up this way. Watch a final table at the WSOP and you'll see that nobody > even looks at his cards until it is his turn to act, because they don't want to give off tells about > what their action will be. It is important to see both ahead of you and behind, but it is those yet > to act which can threaten you the most. > > Hey stdioh. Again I gave the cliff notes version. So to answer Risky's question, it's left right? > lol - Nathaniel Brous I am always more concerned with know what the opponent to my left is going to do. By the time it is my turn, anyone to my right has already acted. Paul Stine College Station, TX | ||
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