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 7-Stud No Ante stradegy, Mark, 20. Apr 2003 14:38 | ||
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| I've read Super System and 7-stud for advanced players and have been winning at 7-stud for a few months now. However, there is one situation i encountered that was not covered in either of the 2 books i mentioned and would like any 7-stud players ideas on the subject. I just tried Paradise Poker the other day. I bought in for a small amount and started checking out all the games. In a low-limit 7-stud game there was no ante. (at the last casino i visited there was a $2-10 spread limit 7-stud game with no ante). The question i have is this. With no ante and tight opponents, is there any point to trying to steal the bring-in? If you succed, all you gain is the bring-in, so it doesn't seem worth it. Also, if you raise with a premium pair and everyone folds, is it a waste? Again, all you win is the bring in. With no ante to start a pot, opponents are right to play very tight. So should i be limping in with Aces on 3rd at a tight table, and start raising on 4th? Thanks for your thoughts mark | ||
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| Re: 7-Stud No Ante stradegy, timmer, 20. Apr 2003 18:02 | ||
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| on 20. Apr 2003 14:38 Mark wrote: >> > The question i have is this. With no ante and tight opponents, is there any > point to trying to steal the bring-in? No. > > If you succed, all you gain is the bring-in, so it doesn't seem worth it. > it isnt > Also, if you raise with a premium pair and everyone folds, is it a waste? Again, all you win is the bring in. if the game is tight you should limp in early position but raise in late position. be sure to mix it up a little though > > With no ante to start a pot, opponents are right to play very tight. So should > i be limping in with Aces on 3rd at a tight table, and start raising on 4th? you might want to wait till 5th if things are passive. raise often with Live big pairs/ cards on 4th is ok if players willing to pass or pay off > > Thanks for your thoughts > > mark | ||
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| Re: 7-Stud No Ante stradegy, Ashley Adams, 21. Apr 2003 04:38 | ||
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| Hi Mark, I address this in an on-line column on www.thepokerforum.com in a 7-Stud article. You should NOT try to steal the antes/bring-in in an anteless game because the risk:benefit is so large. However, if the pot has been loosely called by a couple or three people before you then, on occasion, you can attempt a steal against tight players. If, for example, you've seen these rocks fold to a $5.0 raise after they have called the $1.00 then you might try stealing their tiny call every now and again with a scare card. I also suggest making a distinction between how you handle Aces (and Kings when no Aces are out) and how you handle the other Premium pairs. I would raise the full $5.00 with 10s, Js, or Qs -- willing to win the minuscule pot but hoping for a call from a single opponent. But with Aces, I would raise only a smaller amount -- or perhaps not at all if I thought everyone would fold -- saving the bet for Fourth Street. You want to get heads up going in to Fifth Street. Sometimes the best strategy is to raise $2.00 or $3.00 on Third -- if you think you will only elicit a call or two. On Fourth, if it's multi-way it's sometimes best to try for a check-raise--especially if you have built some reputation for bluffing. Again, check out www.thepokerforum.com for a more complete explanation. Ashley Adams on 20. Apr 2003 18:02 timmer wrote: > on 20. Apr 2003 14:38 Mark wrote: > >> > > The question i have is this. With no ante and tight opponents, is there any > > point to trying to steal the bring-in? > > No. > > > > If you succeed, all you gain is the bring-in, so it doesn't seem worth it. > > > it isn't > > Also, if you raise with a premium pair and everyone folds, is it a waste? Again, > all you win is the bring in. > > if the game is tight you should limp in early position but raise in late position. > be sure to mix it up a little though > > > > With no ante to start a pot, opponents are right to play very tight. So should > > i be limping in with Aces on 3rd at a tight table, and start raising on 4th? > > you might want to wait till 5th if things are passive. > > raise often with Live big pairs/ cards on 4th is ok if players willing to pass or > pay off > > > > Thanks for your thoughts > > > > mark | ||
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