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UTG with Tens, john ray, 20. Apr 2003 08:46
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In a NLHE tourney what would be reasonable bet on a full table considering not knowing the other players. I had this and limped and sure enough some guy holds A5o and the board makes the other 3 A's then I took the big hit by betting out flop. Only my second go at NL. The flop bet was more frustration because I felt i should'nt have let these guys limp in.
THANKS
JOHN
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Re: UTG with Tens, Tommy waggoner, 20. Apr 2003 11:59
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A reasonable raise would have been about four to five times the BB.
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Re: UTG with Tens, Paul Stine, 20. Apr 2003 20:54
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on 20. Apr 2003 08:46 john ray wrote:
> In a NLHE tourney what would be reasonable bet on a full table considering not
> knowing the other players. I had this and limped and sure enough some guy
> holds A5o and the board makes the other 3 A's then I took the big hit by
> betting out flop. Only my second go at NL. The flop bet was more frustration
> because I felt i should'nt have let these guys limp in.
> THANKS
> JOHN

The amount differs, but many authors suggest, and many players use, a pot size raise (3.5*BB) or so to open the pot in a NLHE. TJ Cloutier writes that he uses the same pot-size raise with every hand he opens with, be it AA or 72o.

As with most situations in NL, it depends. If I don't have enough chips to make a meanful bet on the flop should I get called after making a pot size raise, I will usually push all in. If a pot-size raise is 4BB, one call will put about 10BB in the pot. So, if I have 9 or less BB before I open the pot, I will usually push it all in.

TT is a hand for which you would rather not have any callers. You want to collect the blinds (and antes) and see the next hand. With TT you are a small favorite or a big dog to just about any hand that will call your raise. At a full table you should seriously consider folding pre-flop unless your stack is short.

Paul Stine
College Station, TX

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Re: UTG with Tens, stdioh, 21. Apr 2003 09:48
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Depending on a tonne of factors (especially blinds), one of the following applies:

1) Limp here. You want to play for a set and make a lot of money. Treat the tens as you would eights. No set, no bet. You might try playing a lopsopflop with an overpair.

2) If you're about to be blinded out and it is deperation time, or close to it, you would probably want to push all-in here and hope to either pick up the blinds or get called by overcards and hope to win your coin flip.

If it is a cash game then I lean to the former as well. TT only plays well to a large field or heads up.
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